Am i strange that i think music made between now and 20 years ago is best?

[Jezz8me]

Everyone is always going on about how we do not have music like we did in the 70's and things like that. Sure the 70's had awsome songs but i would prefer to listen to a indie post punk band inspired by the rammones than the rammones themselves (btw rammones are awsome, just an example).

I would like to clear up i think that yes popular music is mostly terrible and does not have tallented musicans. The only good popular stuff is the unpopular stuff that has been put into the mainstream because the band is freaking awsome!

I still think though that the indie/ altern/ metal/ bassically any non mainstream form of music (mainly rock genres) there days are fantastic and aside from some exeptions i enjoy it much more than old music.

I also have a little thing about bad the 70's recording quality.



Oh but the best old music came before rock, jazz is great and nothing can compare to those days but modern music (exept the jazz) is, although inspired and influenced by, completely different.

sorry bout the rant.

[Skel]

There always have been great musicians and there always will be.

[The Golden Boy]

I think it has as much to do with when you "came of age."

While I grew up on late 70s and 80s rock, albums like Smashing Pumpkins' "Gish" and Nirvana's "Nevermind" changed my life- just because of when they came out- I was 21-22, fresh out of the Army, had started playing in an "indie" rock band and gigging a lot. I felt a part of that, even though I had, really, nothing to do with it.

OTOH... I hear stuff like mid-late 60s stuff and onward as contemporary as anything else.

[bluestarbass]

I tend to agree, though I love me some sabbath and zep. Stuff was just so darn creative and amazing during that early grunge stage. So many good grunge bands, metal bands, rock bands. I think 50 years down the line more bands from that genre will be still recognized as being amazing as from the 70s.

[Tony G]

There is very little "rock" oriented music that I like from the last 20 years, but I love were jazz fusion has gone and is going.

[fenderhutz]

Music runs in twenty year cycles for a reason, the stuff people grow and love as those people get older and get their music business jobs (like A&R) they looks for bands almost in thie subconscious that's sounds like the stuff they grew up on (20 years ago).

Also from a musician standpoint they remember music they and there parents listened to.

Style and fashion works in the same cycle as music or any pop culture item.

We are going to be seeing ALOT of New Wave stuff, then a grunge revival (that is already happening with 13 and 14 year olds in garages now).

[Jezz8me]

yea i agree to that, i stared listening to some new wave a while back (mainly echo and the bunnymen) and now i am listening to the electro indie rock and it is very similar.

Music is repeating itself a bit but there is always new branches being formed, unfortunately the current ones all contain the exact same bassline. But there are more "experimental music types coming through.

[MakiSupaStar]

I like all the old stuff but there is good new stuff too. I'm always surprised. You just have to keep your eyes and ears open. 1971-73 was an amazing time though. Great albums and bass sound came out that time period.

[gkbass13]

i like a little of everythng...we all have our opinions. so no, oyu arent strange at all for thinking what you do.

[Rattman]

... -Yes.. you are indeed 'strange' to think that there's been any "good" or creative music in the "last 20 years". With the sole exception of maybe Nirvana. Popular music in the contempary time frame has been just amazing forgettable and over-produced..(IMO of course).

As far as "bad recording" techniques in the '70's" well thats a matter of priorities. For me having a CD that will rip my eardrums off is not at all important nor is it even slightly desirable. The engineers and producers of today seem to feel they are obligated to over-saturate & over compress every-single-song.. to the point where a $1,200 Gibson sounds the same as a $90 Korean knock off. I much prefer the discipline, enginnering professionalism and common sense of studio recording from the mid 1960's thru 1988 perhaps. After that.. well 'good luck' trying to find much tonal nuance from studios... they may as well have mixed down all the masters thru a kitchen blender.

[Jezz8me]

i am not saying the recording techniques are bad they just did not have the technology they do today and so even though each instrument has is own distinct sound and may be engineered better it just, to me, doesn't get the volume and fullness of some of todays recording.

And i am not saying popular music i m saying semi-popular as in signed indie bands and such.

[Baryonyx]

I think the best stuff is from 1970 to now...when Fusion went electric, the game was ON!

Of course, there is great music from all periods...classical, Django Reinhardt like 80 years ago...it's all good!

[brianrost]

Originally Posted by Jezz8me

each instrument has is own distinct sound and may be engineered better it just, to me, doesn't get the volume and fullness of some of todays recording

That's the point...modern mixing and mastrering techniques create a sound that is artificial. No dynamics, no air. Real bands playing live just don't sound like that.

Want more volume? Turn up the volume knob.

[Jezz8me]

but compared to a modern recording it is always quieter. AND when i listen to 70's punk bands i get a really low bass response and it does not pick up overdrive and distortion nearly as well

[Philbiker]

Originally Posted by Skel

There always have been great musicians and there always will be.

+20,000

[Philbiker]

Originally Posted by Jezz8me

yea i agree to that, i stared listening to some new wave a while back (mainly echo and the bunnymen) and now i am listening to the electro indie rock and it is very similar.

Check out New Wave pioneer Gary Numan, his modern stuff is as fantastic as his old new wave stuff, perhaps better! Check it out his latest if you like modern "electro indie rock". "Exile", "Pure" and "Jagged" are some of the best stuff he ever did. Doesn't take away from the earlier stuff. Check out some of the tracks at http://www.myspace.com/garynuman.

Numan did have an embarrassing stretch of pop/dance wackiness which may be best forgotten....

[Jezz8me]

HOLY F***ING S*** that you so much for introduing me to Gary Newman. Never before have i heard someone and instantly thought they were fantastic. I have not delved into New Wave much but i think i have found my genre.

I see how Manson was influenced by New Wave. He just creeps and rocks it up a bit.

[Eric Perry]

Originally Posted by Rattman

As far as "bad recording" techniques in the '70's" well thats a matter of priorities. For me having a CD that will rip my eardrums off is not at all important nor is it even slightly desirable. The engineers and producers of today seem to feel they are obligated to over-saturate & over compress every-single-song.. to the point where a $1,200 Gibson sounds the same as a $90 Korean knock off. I much prefer the discipline, enginnering professionalism and common sense of studio recording from the mid 1960's thru 1988 perhaps. After that.. well 'good luck' trying to find much tonal nuance from studios... they may as well have mixed down all the masters thru a kitchen blender.

TOTALLY agree. Like Guns and Roses or not, but that was the last *great* recording that I am aware of. All done on tape, and had all those nuances that are GONE anymore!

[jerome_oneil]

You're not strange for thinking that, man. You're *old.*

[Jezz8me]

old?? im 15