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11-08-2006, 12:11 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Lakland Basses | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mississippi / Memphis, TN | | | Anyone else hate Splash cymbals?
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The drummer in one of our bands uses a splash cymbal and I despise it. It sounds like crap IMO, might as well beat on a pot or pan to get that kind of sound.
Is is just me or are there any other players here who despise splash cymbals too? | 
11-08-2006, 12:16 PM
|  | Knowledge is Good - Emile Faber | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA | | | The ones I hate most are those "pang" cymbals. You know, the upside-down thing with, usually, Chinese writing on them. They, my friend, are aweful.
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11-08-2006, 12:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | Ha, are those splash cymbals? I always thought splashs were those really nice subtle ones because of the splash sound they made.
My drummer has a really abrasive upside down thing, it sounds like a ride bell, but hella loud.
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11-08-2006, 12:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wellington, New Zealand | | nope, the upside down ones are called chinas, splashs are the really tiny ones which make cool splashy noises  i like em...
at my old music shop we put the smallest one on a kit (6") it was ridiculously hard to hit. big roll on snare and miss!
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11-08-2006, 12:45 PM
| | | | I love a nice splash. Saying you hate splash cymbals is like saying you hate soup. You just have to try different ones. Maybe you hate the one your drummer has.
Maybe you hate WHEN he chooses to hit it. It's an accent cymbal. If you're hearing it all the time, he's definitely hitting it at innapropriate times. Give him a coupon for ten hits per set. If he hits it more, it's a punch from everyone in the band for each hit over the limit. He'll learn to hit it tastefully in a hurry... | 
11-08-2006, 12:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: DC | | | Chinas are the worst thing ever invented. I don't know why any drummer would ever waste money on one. splashes can be cool if not overused, but the problem is most drummers think they have to use it all the time just because it's there. | 
11-08-2006, 12:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Orlando, FL | | | Splash cymbals are the small ones. The upside down ones are usually a type of China. The only ones that I know of that have Chinese writing on them are Wutang (or something like that), which are cheap cymbals. I only know all this stuff cause my father is a drummer.
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11-08-2006, 12:48 PM
| | | | A splash will make a more high-pitched sound with a fast decay, and are usually used for quick accents.
The chinas, (yes-the upside-down looking cymbals) make a harsh sound that phonetically sounds like "KAAH." In metal, many drummers will ride a china for a more cutting and harsh sound.
I like splash cymbals, just don’t over-do it. I’ve never had any trouble hitting mine, but a big “swing and a miss” would make the drummer look a like an idiot. LOL
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11-08-2006, 12:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wellington, New Zealand | | | saying you hate splashes is like saying i hate the thin sound g strings make
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11-08-2006, 01:06 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, NJ | | | My favorite splash on my kit when I played was a 8" Sabian B8. $20 cymbal that I loved, and so did everyone around.
But you can't beat a Wuhan 12" China for looking cool. Never got much use though.
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11-08-2006, 01:07 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Lakland Basses | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mississippi / Memphis, TN | | | him overusing it might be the problem as well.
to me they just sound so "blah"... | 
11-08-2006, 01:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bowling Green, Ohio | | | When used properly, chinas can sound really cool.
Splashes are cute, lol, theyre so small, and they make this nice, quiet sound, unlike other cymbals, teehee "plakish" | 
11-08-2006, 01:15 PM
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Jazz band rehearsals have sucked recently because the university has six sets... three reserved for their stages, one for a small rehearsal room, and two for the main practice room. Sadly, we've been stuck with the crappiest of the two sets for the main practice room. The hi-hat stand is broken. One crash cymbal is held in a stand by a drum stick, and bass pedal hits three times before coming loose. But dammit if our drummer doesn't try!
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11-08-2006, 01:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Dakota | | | Effects cymbals are very nice when used for their intended purpose - effect. Like anything, when over used or used in the wrong context, they sound bad.
They could also just be crappy cymbals. | 
11-08-2006, 02:54 PM
|  | On the TB leaderboard for low talent/gear ratios! | | Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NJ | | When used at the right time and/or the right situation, sure. They can sound great when a small, light touched accent is called for.
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11-08-2006, 02:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Isle of Lucy | | | I prefer the cowbell to the splash.
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11-08-2006, 02:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | Just as I thought... I love splashes
As far as China Cymbals go... drummers who know how to use them are amazing.
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11-08-2006, 03:21 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rochester, NY | | | I find this funny because I bought my drummer (and best friend) a splash and china cymbal for Christmas last year.
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11-08-2006, 03:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Orlando, FL | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Vic Winters I find this funny because I bought my drummer (and best friend) a splash and china cymbal for Christmas last year. | I bought my dad (a drummer) new hi-hats and a crash and ride for his birthday last year (Zildjans) and this year I bought him a splash and china (Sabians). 
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11-08-2006, 03:25 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Hampshire | | No...but then again I'm a drummer and I have one on my set
You may just hate the sound of that particular splash. Especially if it's a cheaper splash it won't sound quite as pleasing.
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