Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Miscellaneous [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Miscellaneous [BG] Music-related discussion, not specific to the bass or any other forum


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 11-08-2004, 03:04 PM
Stinsok's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Central Alabama
Supporting Member
Anyone own/used/been around "cocktail" drums?

Sign in to disble this ad
I have been researching them as a possibility for an acoustic trio, but noone around here has them. Any input?
  #2  
Old 11-08-2004, 03:09 PM
jive1's Avatar
Registered User

Owner/Retailer: Jive Sound
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alexandria,VA
Send a message via AIM to jive1
Supporting Member
Yeah, I own a Slingerland cocktail kit. It's nice because it's probably the only drum kit that will fit in my tiny rehearsal room. The kick will not have the boom of a typical bass drum because of it's size and the heads. The same goes for the Floor Tom. Since the Floor tom and Kick are the same drum, you can't really tune them to make them sound "typical"

Anyway, it sound cool. It definitely works well for practice, and surprisingly well recorded. It will definitely work well for an acoustic trio.
  #3  
Old 11-08-2004, 03:13 PM
Stinsok's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Central Alabama
Supporting Member
I wouldn't expect a big bass drum sound, but if I could manage a tight useable sound with the kick portion that would be cool. I have seen the Slingerland kits (musicyo.com,) but was thinking along the lines of the kits that just have the snare wires directly under the top head of the drum. I would probably just use brushes and hotrods for the "snare."

Last edited by Stinsok : 11-08-2004 at 03:15 PM.
  #4  
Old 11-09-2004, 10:46 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
I own yamaha's cocktail set and love it. I never use the snares on floor tom/ kick drum. I don't like how it voices when using the kick drum. The pop corn snare on the side is lovely sounding; like a cross between a coffee can and a shot gun (very unique). I've used it live before and had nothing but positive feed back. It's uncomfortable at first as a lot of weight is centered on your left foot, but you will get used to it. They are great for gigging in small places, and easy to move as they are one piece. Very attention grabbing visually too!
  #5  
Old 11-09-2004, 10:51 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Also, for a deeper bass tone, use an oil filled/ self muting head for the kick drum. Foam muting doesn't hurt either. With proper mic-ing you can get any sound you want from your drums. All this drum talk makes me sad...all my drums are back home (I'm away at college).
  #6  
Old 09-22-2009, 09:26 AM
bassteban's Avatar
that video LIES
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Northern California
Supporting Member
It's not what you think

Not my usual zombie-prodding; my super-awesome recently approved of the purchase of a small drum set to keep at the house for impromptu rehearsals, jams, etc. What's new in the way of these kits? I've seen cheapos on CL- anyone have any experience?

Edit: Here's a remarkably affordable one: http://www.vintagedrum.com/category/...tail-Drum-Sets
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Albert View Post
He who throws mud only loses ground.

Last edited by bassteban : 09-22-2009 at 09:29 AM.
  #7  
Old 09-22-2009, 05:45 PM
emor's Avatar
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: kcmo
Supporting Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEqZb...om=PL&index=17
  #8  
Old 09-22-2009, 05:57 PM
bassteban's Avatar
that video LIES
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Northern California
Supporting Member
That's cool- I know what they look & sound like, though(my drummer cobbled one together from old stuff he had lying about). My question is does anyone here know if these sub-$300 deals are worth it? Not for full-on gigs, just house jams & practice.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Albert View Post
He who throws mud only loses ground.
  #9  
Old 09-22-2009, 08:09 PM
JTE's Avatar
JTE JTE is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Illinois, USA
Supporting Member
I gigged for a while with a guy who played a cocktail set (as well as djembe, congas, bongos, and various other hand percussion). It worked really well for that band, as we were going for a pretty quiet set up.

John
__________________
JTE
Spelling, grammar, and punctuation do matter, despite the threats of death by grease fire!

"Without space, music is just noise piling up on itself." TRK

Lakland Owners' Club # 248
  #10  
Old 09-22-2009, 08:12 PM
Stinsok's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Central Alabama
Supporting Member
Since I made this post in 2004, I built a mini drum kit using a 16'' floor tom. I use a 13'' brass piccolo snare and a traditional hihat stand. Just a couple of trips to the car for setup. Mic'd up it sounds pretty cool.
  #11  
Old 09-22-2009, 08:28 PM
Jimmy Bones's Avatar
I make metal look good.
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Baxley, GA
Send a message via AIM to Jimmy Bones Send a message via MSN to Jimmy Bones Send a message via Yahoo to Jimmy Bones
Supporting Member
They look hard to play.
__________________
Schecter #68|Mediocre Bassists #279|Redneck #8
SX Club Member In Good Standing
  #12  
Old 09-22-2009, 11:24 PM
Munjibunga's Avatar
Total Hyper-Elite Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Groom Lake, NV
GOLD Supporting Member
The first time I ever saw one was at Disneyland over by Pirates of the Caribbean. Not surprisingly, a Pirate was playing them. They sounded pretty good.
__________________
What is this thing called butthurt?
  #13  
Old 09-23-2009, 12:54 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Yuma, Az
I did a short run of a musical called, "Once on This Island." The drummer played a cocktail kit, and he worked the crap out of it. Between sticks, hands, and a couple of doohickies holding congas, he was a complete Carribean rhythm section all by himself.

Neat looking kit, too, and took up all of 5' x 5' onstage, drummer included.
__________________
Christian Praise & Worship Bassist Club Member #371, Ibanez BTB Club #16, Headless Club #11
Quote:
Originally Posted by john turner View Post
4 strings were enough for jaco.
  #14  
Old 09-23-2009, 05:31 AM
Pacman's Avatar
Layin' Down Time

Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Supporting Member
The only time I've seen them played, it was Peter Erskine playing them. They sounded awesome, although it could have been cardboard boxes and he woulda rocked em.
__________________
Groove is Everything
Jon Packard

Roscoe #6181/#6259/#D010/#D049

Quartus on Facebook

my photography website


Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithBMI View Post
Pacman. He serves out nice warm portions of kickass.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:39 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.