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Old 01-26-2012, 10:36 PM
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Applying for a Talent Scholarship. Thoughts...HELP!?

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Hello, the college I'm planning on attending offers a scholarship for musical talent.
Here are the requirements for it:

http://www.morningside.edu/admission...irements-1.pdf

Obviously I will be playing bass guitar and I was just kind of wondering what to expect.
It says all major scales. What would that mean for bass? I know the scale patterns for the major and minor scales. Am I set there?
My sight-reading is kind of weak. Anyone predict I will get something difficult to play?
And finally, two songs. My first that I have down pat:

Steve Conte - Call Me Call Me - YouTube

Good song for this? I don't know.

Can anyone recommend something that contrasts this song that would also demonstrate my ability?
I can do YYZ, minus a few of the Geddy solos.
(I guess that is kind of worthless information. Ha...)

One last thing to say is that I will not be attending this school for music. This isn't Berklee.
(I'm gonna be a computer science major. )

So yes, any helpful advice, as this is all new to me, would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:38 PM
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Also, it's a super ripoff that only majors in music on other instruments have to sight-read, but strings? Oh no, you do it anyways...

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Old 01-26-2012, 11:19 PM
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Am I good to go scale wise just knowing the major and minor scale patterns?
This site showed me the Mixolydian and Pentatonic scales too:

http://www.studybass.com/lessons/bass-scales/

Anything else?
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:02 AM
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Is David Bowie's Let's Dance a good option for another song?
I know it's pretty simple, but the evaluation is coming up...
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Bump.

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Old 01-27-2012, 10:12 AM
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I don't have any formal education but I would think you'd need to know more than the minor and major scales to get a talent scholarship. I'd suggest at the least learning all your modes, and how they work, I'd think they'd ask you how they work.

No clue though, I have never gotten formal music ed, all self taught, good luck with your audition.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:21 AM
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Did you read the requirements:

Two contrasting musical selections which demonstrate your strengths as an instrumentalist, including your technical ability, your tone, and your musicianship.
All major scales (memorized)
Sight-reading

It says major scales, not minor, modes or anything else. You should consult with your teacher about what piece to play. If you don't have a teacher and haven't been taking lessons, I don't like your chances.

I'm not saying you have to be Jaco, but you probably won't get anything playing roots and fifths.

Sorry, but I can't even wish you good luck. It's not fair to take a scholarship from someone who WANTS to be a musician so you can study computer science for free.
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:59 PM
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Sorry, but I can't even wish you good luck. It's not fair to take a scholarship from someone who WANTS to be a musician so you can study computer science for free.
Rude.

While I understand your meaning here, let it be known that this and similar scholarships aren't only for those who wish to major in music, or the other areas.
Take a look:
Morningside College Admissions: All New Students Scholarships

It's just awarding you for your talents as you go into your studies. If it happens to be what you'll be majoring in, then hot dog!
So of course I will attempt to take advantage of it and the others that coincide with my talents.
I'm applying in the graphic art, mass media and computer technology sections too.
The most I can get is $4,000 per year total for ALL of those sections. I'm hardly taking away anything from anyone.

Oh and "free". Lol.
A scholarship doesn't mean full ride.
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Old 01-27-2012, 04:09 PM
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I'm not saying you have to be Jaco, but you probably won't get anything playing roots and fifths.


I can't tell whether you are or not, but if you're referring to the first song selection that I linked to on Youtube, I recommend you listen to more than just the first 0:30.
It's not a beginner piece.
That said, it's not super awesome either...
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Rude.
Welcome to the internet.

If you don't want opinions, don't ask for them. Sometimes you hear things you don't want to hear. And people don't always confine their opinions to what you've asked.
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I guess even Talkbass can't escape the cold grasp of the uncivilized interwebs.
And I guess I thought it could. My mistake.

Either way, did you read past my first word?
I felt compelled to explain myself after your scathing reply.
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Old 01-28-2012, 01:36 PM
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Gonna bump this one last time.
I think I'm gonna do Polonaise by JS Bach as a second.
I suppose something classical like this would contrast nicely.

It's actually really easy. I'm gonna play it out of my old trombone solos book. Heh heh.

Bad idea? Let me know...please.
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Did you read the requirements:

Two contrasting musical selections which demonstrate your strengths as an instrumentalist, including your technical ability, your tone, and your musicianship.
All major scales (memorized)
Sight-reading

It says major scales, not minor, modes or anything else. You should consult with your teacher about what piece to play. If you don't have a teacher and haven't been taking lessons, I don't like your chances.

I'm not saying you have to be Jaco, but you probably won't get anything playing roots and fifths.

Sorry, but I can't even wish you good luck. It's not fair to take a scholarship from someone who WANTS to be a musician so you can study computer science for free.
What about all the D-1 athletes who don't go on to become professional athletes?

They may have enough talent to play college athletics, but go on to be bankers, lawyers, doctors, etc...

What about the people who don't male the military a career, but put in their 4 years and get the gi bill? They don't deserve the free ride?

College is expensive, any part that is gonna be paid for me I would take.
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What about all the D-1 athletes who don't go on to become professional athletes?

They may have enough talent to play college athletics, but go on to be bankers, lawyers, doctors, etc...

What about the people who don't male the military a career, but put in their 4 years and get the gi bill? They don't deserve the free ride?

College is expensive, any part that is gonna be paid for me I would take.
I appreciate you backing me up here, I really do.
But I would love it if I could just get some advice for my upcoming evaluation.
Thank you though. You seem to understand how the cost of college can keep you under its thumb for years and years after you graduate.
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Old 01-30-2012, 11:41 AM
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What about all the D-1 athletes who don't go on to become professional athletes?

They may have enough talent to play college athletics, but go on to be bankers, lawyers, doctors, etc...

What about the people who don't male the military a career, but put in their 4 years and get the gi bill? They don't deserve the free ride?

College is expensive, any part that is gonna be paid for me I would take.
In my OPINION, music is different, you are entitled to your opinion. I went through college on scholarships. I saw non music majors occasionally taking those scholarships to study other subjects. I don't think it's right, but that's life.

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Old 01-30-2012, 11:45 AM
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I guess even Talkbass can't escape the cold grasp of the uncivilized interwebs.
And I guess I thought it could. My mistake.

Either way, did you read past my first word?
I felt compelled to explain myself after your scathing reply.
Not your first mistake.

Your first word was Hello. Yes I read past it. Now I'm wishing I hadn't.

Did you bother to read my reply? It answered your questions. It doesn't like look that many other people here bothered to try to help you.

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