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02-13-2008, 06:06 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | | Ashlee Simpson must be stopped.
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Ok, so I saw this travesty this morning. http://youtube.com/watch?v=K5UoVKV1VsY
Now, based on what you just endured...if you're under 16 and have no frame of reference, I assume you'd think she was ripping off Gwen Stefani. (more like riding her coattails...)
But no. Her handlers MUST have been thinking "Geez, when this girl was TRYING to sing, as in semi-real pop pap from a couple years ago (read: "pieces of me", etc), she couldn't sing. So what can we mush her into where she doesn't have to sing? OH YEAH! Bad 80's music. Thing is, this bimbo isn't even a child of the 80's, and what's worse, is reviving what was worst in the 80's synth pop genre: the Toni-basil, 3rd rate Cyndi Lauper / Missing Persons stuff...thing is, it's so trite, even her NON singing sounds retarded. It's so forced, and face it... that short-lived 80's revival (thnk Killers & the Bravery) is about two years ago too late honey...so I just don't even understand what she is trying to gain with this except for mockery. But it's not even endearing in that sense, like a Weird Al Yankovic type thing...no... Believe it or not, there WAS good music in the 80's. Ashlee, face it, your career is spinning around in the toilet, right along with your sister's...Daddy must be SO proud!
And look at that video. What a bunch of tired 80's references...come on, a Rubik's cube? Didja notice the rubik's cube, for all it's rotating never gets solved? It's because the maker of the video has no clue, just like Ashlee's handlers.
Hang it up already...that was NO way for me to be awakenned at 5:00 this morning. Between this idiocy, and the fact that corporate music industry has no clue where to turn, I hope this whole farce caves in on their collective heads and takes Timbaland and most other music "producers" down with it.
Music is art, not product...jeez. Music for ringtone's sake. Kill me now.
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02-13-2008, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mon Rominee Music is art, not product... | Huh? Why do these have to be mutually exclusive? Music can be both, neither, more of one than the other.
Ashlee is fine. | 
02-13-2008, 06:52 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | Ok, let me rephrase. THIS music is only for sake of being product, not for any type of artistic merit. No, they aren't mutually exclusive, but they should mingle a bit more in cases like this...
And when you say she's fine, are you talking about her looks? Just curious...she has a great plastic surgeon.  | 
02-13-2008, 08:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: conditional upon harmonic Hz | | | OK, so stop paying attention and focus on something real, like Herbie Hancock and Joni Mitchell! , for example.
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02-13-2008, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mon Rominee ...3rd rate Cyndi Lauper... | Hey, hey.
No dissin' Cyndi. That lady could write a freakin' song. I think "Time After Time" has to be one of the most covered songs in every genre to ever come out of the 80s.
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02-13-2008, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BuffaloBass OK, so stop paying attention and focus on something real, like Herbie Hancock and Joni Mitchell! , for example. | I d/l'd the "Letters to Joni" album, which somehow had missed my notice before the Grammys (which I always REFUSE to notice, except their thrust in my face repeatedly on any radio or TV "news" show there is).
I love Joni Mitchell. I love Herbie Hancock.
Hancock covering Mitchell?
Excelsior!
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02-13-2008, 08:34 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | | Buffalobass, I hear you...but, didja miss the part where I said I was awoken to it at 5 this morning? My Wife left the toob on and that was what I saw and was in disbelief when it ended....so I made an observation....sorry for sharing folks.
And I wasn't dissing on Cyndi Lauper OR Missing Persons, I love them both...but, for example, "Ooo She Bop" was not a highlight in Cyndi's career...and that is where I was going with that. In Ashlee's case, it's a moot point, because she doesn't write her own material, so I don't think she will ever rise above sad sack novelty tripe.
I know it's old news people, this just rubbed me the wrong way is all, and I posted...thought that was a welcome thing here.
And Guitfiddle, preach it brother. CHURCH! | 
02-13-2008, 08:53 AM
|  | Analyzer Records Endorsing Artist: Mesa/Boogie - Shop Manager/Tech, SF Guitarworks | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | You can't blame Ashlee Simpson or her label for capitalizing on an ignorant public. With illegal downloading at epidemic levels, record labels are forced to push this kind of thing - music that the are sure will actually sell. Since labels can't afford to take risks on cutting edge artists anymore, they have to go where the money is, and that is in insipid pop music for 12 year olds.
Throughout all of history, there has been good art, bad art, and "art" that is made strictly to make money. Nothing has changed, except that "art" to move product is more insidious and obvious than ever before.
If it makes you feel any better, Ashlee Simpson won't even be a minor footnote in history, while great artists will be remembered long after they are gone. | 
02-13-2008, 09:03 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | Ben, I appreciate and agree with and realize everything you've said, and it needed to be said...
but just to clarify, this thread was just musings on something that hapenned to me this morning...yeah, I just found this one instance sad, because this girl in her constant attempts to reinvent herself after countless ridicules and misteps keeps on going along with what appears to be a course of action set to ensure her quick demise. I know she's under contract or whatever and to a point must do what she's told in order to continue (which in itself is sad) working....but I just wonder if at any point she herself paused, for even a nanosecond, and thought to herself "this is a really bad move".
"the fact that corporate music industry has no clue where to turn, I hope this whole farce caves in on their collective heads and takes Timbaland and most other music "producers" down with it."
I still stand by this statement.
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02-13-2008, 09:03 AM
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02-13-2008, 09:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | | You know what, if you look past the fact that Ashlee Simpson cannot sing and she is the product of a big corporation, she is doing something that we would all want to do, and that is music as a career. | 
02-13-2008, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BuffaloBass No Mon, I didnt,. Sorry Bro, that would set me off on " BALLSITIC" as well.
Peace Bro. look forward, Beathe deep, let the Funk fill your Soul today! | Hahahaha, way ahead of you...I'm de-toxing with a little Jonathan Richman & Paul Westerberg right now...hahahaha | 
02-13-2008, 09:16 AM
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02-13-2008, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by punkbassistfc You know what, if you look past the fact that Ashlee Simpson cannot sing and she is the product of a big corporation, she is doing something that we would all want to do, and that is music as a career. | As a professional musician I take a bit of offense at that. | 
02-13-2008, 09:42 AM
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02-13-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy Ron, you make me want to la la.  | Hahahahaha....lol. Feelings mutual Dave, no doubt.... hahaha | 
02-13-2008, 09:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hershey, PA | | | I don't know why Ashlee is such a target. JayLo can't sing very well, neither can Nelli Furtado. And some people who can sing, sing crap like Gwen S.. And when it come to guy bands, most of them can't sing. Why is that OK for them but not Ashlee. At least Ashlee is easy to look at.
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02-13-2008, 09:52 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | She's such a target because she sucks just that wee bit more. and again, because she ruined otherwise perfectly fine morning wood with her caterwauling.
You're not one of the guys that believed her "acid reflux" story, are you?  | 
02-13-2008, 09:54 AM
| | | | her boobs are too big to be gwen stefani | 
02-13-2008, 09:59 AM
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