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07-15-2011, 07:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hudson Falls NY 12839 | | | Bass specific instrument cables?
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Is there such a thing? I know they sell them but does it really make a difference? I've used Whirlwind Leader for ever and never really had any issues with any of them? My guitarist, who plays and 8 string, was told to get a bass instrument cable? And I didn't know if they just wanted to make more money off of him or there is an actual difference? |
07-16-2011, 01:41 AM
|  | <---Shinola Shite--^ | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | | lol, just lol, ahem, sorry. PT Barnum said it best. Just get a quality cable. The only thing you would want to look for is LOW CAPACITANCE cable if available.
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07-16-2011, 02:41 AM
| | | | Spend more than $20 on a cable and you'll be okay.
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07-16-2011, 06:24 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hudson Falls NY 12839 | | | That's what I though,my guitarist just wasted $50 on a 21 ft Monster cable! Haha no doubt they are good but I think they are a waste of money u could get two cables for the price of one |
07-16-2011, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by AL!EN BA$$  That's what I though,my guitarist just wasted $50 on a 21 ft Monster cable! Haha no doubt they are good but I think they are a waste of money u could get two cables for the price of one | i'd rather buy that one lifetime guaranteed cable than two $25.00 crap cables (unless they have the same return policy). my Monster cable is over 20 years old,... seems like good money spent to me.
btw, i've never had a cheap one last more than a few years!
on the other hand, there are 21ft cables that are over $100. those are the ones i avoid. but if i lose my well-built Monster or Mogami's, i buy another because they have never failed in the field...
if it fails,... they replace it,.... for life!!!  
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07-16-2011, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pacojas i'd rather buy that one lifetime guaranteed cable than two $25.00 crap cables (unless they have the same return policy). my Monster cable is over 20 years old,... seems like good money spent to me.
btw, i've never had a cheap one last more than a few years!
on the other hand, there are 21ft cables that are over $100. those are the ones i avoid. but if i lose my well-built Monster or Mogami's, i buy another because they have never failed in the field...
if it fails,... they replace it,.... for life!!! | Pah. If you take reasonable care of your cables and you get decently made ones to begin with, you'll never need that warranty. I've got plenty of 10-30 year old cables that are working just fine, and not a Monster among them.
And bass specific cables? Don't waste your money. |
07-16-2011, 06:50 PM
| | | | Monster cable plays that game. I'll take live wire elite and mogami cables over them any day. But any qaulity instrument cable will work fine. Monster cables also use oversize 1/4 plugs that can cause problems later on if you switch back to cables with regular size 1/4 plugs.
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07-16-2011, 07:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Buffalo, NY | | | Yeah, monster cables are actually fairly high capacitance, the plugs stretch out and ruin your input jacks over time, and their customer service is lackluster.
Lifetime replacement? What happens when you spend 50 dollars on a Monster Jazz Cable, it breaks a month later, and you go to replace it? Nothing. They stopped making it. You are left with a broken cable and no fifty dollars.
You're much better off getting a nice, quality low capacitance cable that will last you the rest of your life.
Butch Ammons over at Bayou Audio makes really solid, decent sounding cables using Canare cable and G&H or Neutrik connectors. Thats what I use. I've had a 20 foot and a ten foot for a year and a half now and they are still like new. Canare is a bit dark sounding, but in a good way IMO.
If I ever decide to upgrade, I would buy from Lava Cable-even better- that's where I purchased my solderless patch cables.
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07-16-2011, 10:55 PM
|  | keepin' the beat since the 60's | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Studio City, SoCal, USA | | Monster is the Bose of cables. We refer to Bose as "Better audio through marketing". Monster is mostly spin and PR. Not worth the money. Whirlwind, ProCo, Bayou, etc. are all great cables with great sound at half the price.
There is no such thing as a Bass Cable! (unless it means one that is not good enough for full-range audio).
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07-16-2011, 11:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | | Hi.
I have mostly rolled my own for the last few decades, and most of those cords are still in use (the ones that haven't been stolen).
Neutrik ends and any quality cable will last a long time.
If ones sodering skills are not top notch, the only break will happen next to the solder joint, so clipping 5 to 10 cm off the end and re-soldering the plug will take care of that problem.
There are instrument specific cables in the market, but it's just passive filters to alter the sound, I'd avoid those like a plague.
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07-18-2011, 02:29 AM
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The main thing to do is look for an "Instrument" cable. Do that and you should be just fine. |
07-27-2011, 08:08 AM
| | | Speaking of marketing, anyone saw this signature cable? XOTiC cable Scott Henderson Model
"Original Xotic Cable (XGC-1) was developed with three strict requirements: sound should not be thin, sound should cut through and it should have minimal noise. We utilized spirally structure copper wire shielded with conductive vinyl and wrapped with an flexible outer coating. The result; an easy to handle cable providing superior sound with minimal noise. We used the gold standard of plugs, Switchcraft (straight #280, right-angle #226). Since most high-end guitars use Switchcraft jacks, matching the brand of plugs with jacks minimizes any electrical connection issues."  |
07-27-2011, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ex-tension | Actually, that's true. Matter of fact, I use this principle in everyday life. Since my TV is a Toshiba, I specifically ordered a Toshiba wall socket. It minimizes any electrical connection issues. Also, I only eat Bush's Baked Beans with Bush's brand forks. It minimizes any plate to mouth transmission issues. |
07-27-2011, 05:15 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | There are no bass or guitar cables. There are just instrument cables.
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07-27-2011, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dtsamples Also, I only eat Bush's Baked Beans with Bush's brand forks. It minimizes any plate to mouth transmission issues. | ow, my face hurts from laughing. 
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07-27-2011, 05:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | Monster cables = snake oil. 
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07-29-2011, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ggunn Pah. If you take reasonable care of your cables and you get decently made ones to begin with, you'll never need that warranty. I've got plenty of 10-30 year old cables that are working just fine, and not a Monster among them.
And bass specific cables? Don't waste your money. | +1 Same here. |
07-29-2011, 11:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | | I make my own patch cables with television coax cable and switchcraft ends.
I use ProCo instrument cables, 10-15 footers, and they have yet to fail on me. Same with "Ibanez" and "Peavey" brand cables.
I also use Rapco cables that have a 5 year warranty, and are relatively cheap and sound just fine. You're fooling yourself if you hear a difference.
I don't get the hype over high dollar cables, at all. Diminishing return, if you ask me.
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