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09-26-2009, 09:55 PM
| | | | Is it better for bands to release 5 albums of good material than release 10 of fluff?
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Better to release 5 albums of great material over 15 years than release 10 albums of fluff in 10 years??
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09-26-2009, 10:11 PM
| | | | Judgment call.
If you asked a record exec, they could probably cite some statistic that says the average band is only hot for a X amount of years anyway, and might well suggest releasing as many albums as possible.
But it seems to me that most bands releasing fluff wouldn't be around 10 years unless it's a fluke (not that I am saying they don't exist, Def Lepard comes to mind).
I also think it depends on who your target market is... clearly, some listening audiences are far more critical than others. | 
09-26-2009, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by twdavis13 Better to release 5 albums of great material over 15 years than release 10 albums of fluff in 10 years?? | putting out crappy work in quantity instead of less,but quality work is a bad idea for anyone in any field....if you plan on longevity.... quality lasts.....you may make some quick money with fluff but you will never get your reputation back with any amount of cash
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09-26-2009, 10:34 PM
| | | | two words, Slayer and Megadeth, both bands have 11 albums released and keep selling every seat in the house and out of it..
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09-27-2009, 07:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON | | | Obviously... that's like asking if you'd rather have ten pounds of poop in your pockets or only five dollars...
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09-27-2009, 07:19 AM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | 5 good albums is an insane lot for a band. Most will only produce 1 in their entire career. | 
09-27-2009, 09:42 AM
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09-27-2009, 06:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Listowel/KW Ontario | | | There is a band call Thrice and the have released 3 albums in the last 4 years and everyone has been amazing. MewithoutYou has released 4 albums in the last 6 years and they are all fantastic. Some bands can just make great music, it doesn't matter how often they put them out.
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09-27-2009, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by iamlowsound There is a band call Thrice and the have released 3 albums in the last 4 years and everyone has been amazing. MewithoutYou has released 4 albums in the last 6 years and they are all fantastic. Some bands can just make great music, it doesn't matter how often they put them out.
lowsound | It's relative.
I think everything Thrice has ever done is awful.
So what may be "fluff" for someone, might be the greatest thing ever recorded to someone else.
Also, how many records is the "fluff" selling vs. the band that takes their time? Once money is a factor, answers change. | 
09-27-2009, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by iamlowsound There is a band call Thrice and the have released 3 albums in the last 4 years and everyone has been amazing. MewithoutYou has released 4 albums in the last 6 years and they are all fantastic. Some bands can just make great music, it doesn't matter how often they put them out.
lowsound | mewithoutYou is an example against the argument, yes. They are one of the best bands I've ever had the joy of listening to and seeing live.
And are we considering popularity/breakthrough success to be factors? I mean, the band Agalloch has made 3 near-perfect albums (an album every 4 years or so) but no one's ever heard of them. (if you have, your musical tastes are wonderful) | 
09-28-2009, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Joey3313 It's relative.
I think everything Thrice has ever done is awful.
| Have you heard Beggers yet? Their best work to date.
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09-28-2009, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iamlowsound Have you heard Beggers yet? Their best work to date.
lowsound | I didn't mean to get into an argument/discussion about Thrice, just trying to prove my point. | 
09-29-2009, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by makanudo two words, Slayer and Megadeth, both bands have 11 albums released and keep selling every seat in the house and out of it.. | Are you serious? Look out in the crowds! Middle school and high school punk stoners and people that didn't graduate high school. Yeah those are awesome bands!
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09-29-2009, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by iamlowsound Have you heard Beggers yet? Their best work to date.
lowsound | Beggars is not bad, but it is painfully soft.
Sometimes all of that sensitivity doesn't translate into actual passion when you hit record. Quote:
Originally Posted by Valerus I mean, the band Agalloch has made 3 near-perfect albums (an album every 4 years or so) but no one's ever heard of them. (if you have, your musical tastes are wonderful) | I love Agalloch.
Normally I hate acoustic music and all of that black/post metal stuff, but neofolk has something going for it. Acoustic simplicity, post-metal pretension, and black metal atmospherics make a decent combination... but each alone are not so alluring. Quote:
Originally Posted by selfblessed Are you serious? Look out in the crowds! Middle school and high school punk stoners and people that didn't graduate high school. Yeah those are awesome bands! | That has always been thrash metal's audience.
Nu-metal and Metalcore's audience is much worse, but they are even more popular as a whole than thrash. | 
09-29-2009, 09:17 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | | Wow- This is my exact argument against just about every "orginial" local band/writer/whatever I've had contact with. They think because they pooped it out, it's gold instead of the offal fecal matter most of it is.
Music is too important to be treated so lightly as to release poor material. One album of good songs is more important than ten albums with five good songs between them.
John
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09-29-2009, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JTE Wow- This is my exact argument against just about every "orginial" local band/writer/whatever I've had contact with. They think because they pooped it out, it's gold instead of the offal fecal matter most of it is.
Music is too important to be treated so lightly as to release poor material. One album of good songs is more important than ten albums with five good songs between them.
John | I want to make an apt but tasteless reply to this post (as I usually do), but it defies logic itself. Who passed Robert Christgau's torch of unapologetically-opinionated-to-a-fault music criticism onto you? | 
09-29-2009, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Lovejoy I love Agalloch.
Normally I hate acoustic music and all of that black/post metal stuff, but neofolk has something going for it. Acoustic simplicity, post-metal pretension, and black metal atmospherics make a decent combination... but each alone are not so alluring. | It all depends really. I agree with some of your points.
You like neofolk? Acoustic?
Try Drudkh's Songs of Grief and Solitude. They're black metal but that album is strictly acoustic/folk. and it's AWESOME.
Heard of Wolves In The Throne Room? They are wonderful black metal from the US. I was taken away by their atmosphere. | 
09-29-2009, 05:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: IL | | | I think since its kind of on the subject we should praise KMFDM for having like a million albums that all sound unique yet manage to still be that kmfdm sound.
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