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10-30-2009, 05:25 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York City | | | big favor to ask of those who can read...
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...and make simple recordings.
i was asked to do a few bass and clarinet pieces in a show and given the music. my reading skills are worse than bad. the music is INCREDIBLY simple. would anyone here be willing and kind enough to record the basslines to a click if I sent em to ya?  I promise it's super simple stuff, it will just take me forever to learn in standard notation and an hour to learn if I can hear it and play it.
thanks to anyone who offers their help, and if others could bump this I'd appreciate it alo. | 
10-30-2009, 06:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Germany | | this is a bump, but also an idea:
besides the obvious "learn to read"  - why not get a notation program than can playback the input -- something like finale notepad (maybe you can find an older free version, they started to charge $10 or so).
also, learn to read better.  (yeah, yeah...) | 
10-30-2009, 07:17 PM
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10-30-2009, 07:19 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York City | | thanks, i knew the learn to read stuff was coming.
i actually have cubase 5 which I'm sure can play it for me, but i figured by the time i figured that out it would be the same as figuring the music out. several reasons I don't want to figure the notes and stuff out myself:
i have a complete set of original tunes to learn by tuesday
i have a really rough time memorizing anything when I learn it off charts and/or notation of any sort
i'm completely bogged down with other non music related work stuff this weekend
i thought if i reached out for some help, i might get it, and i don't think there's anything inherently wrong with asking for help when you know you could really use it.  | 
10-30-2009, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Nerve thanks, i knew the learn to read stuff was coming.
i actually have cubase 5 which I'm sure can play it for me, but i figured by the time i figured that out it would be the same as figuring the music out. several reasons I don't want to figure the notes and stuff out myself:
i have a complete set of original tunes to learn by tuesday
i have a really rough time memorizing anything when I learn it off charts and/or notation of any sort
i'm completely bogged down with other non music related work stuff this weekend
i thought if i reached out for some help, i might get it, and i don't think there's anything inherently wrong with asking for help when you know you could really use it.  | i find that i don't remember pieces i've read over 50 times as well as pieces i got by ear or tab......i think that since i have to crawl through tab slowly it sticks better....if i had some way to interface with the computer i'd give it a shot,but.......
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10-30-2009, 07:52 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York City | | should I add that the first one is just 3 notes per measure, and repeats itself a lot. really ridiculously simple, cept for a guy like me who's notationally challenged. i can scan and just send 1... ya know? ya don't gotta commit to them all.
i'll dive into cubase if I don't get any volunteers soon. probably won't hurt to learn how to use that. aight! i'm done beggin here. | 
10-30-2009, 11:23 PM
|  | No need to ask, he's a smooth... Moderator | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Midlands UK | | I'm really busy this weekend, too - but I can find 10 minutes to knock out one of these for you Joe, if that would help (providing you just want it played as it's written and don't want a polished recording).
I'll PM you my email address now.
Come on, guys, help a brother out. If a few of us did one each, that would sort it.
(Oh yeah, nearly forgot - learn to read!  )
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10-31-2009, 01:38 AM
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10-31-2009, 06:20 AM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York City | | | thanks so much guys. i'll scan them after breakfast and send them out. you can do them slower than they're written and i'll just speed them up to tempo. | 
10-31-2009, 06:39 AM
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10-31-2009, 07:53 AM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York City | | thanks again guys, I just sent the scans. jimmy, if you'd like to have a go at it I'd need an email address. you can email me at nervemail@aol.com or send me a pm.
if any of you are into the rock thing I'd be happy to send you a Nerve and a Cortez the Killer CD in thanks for your effort. You'd just have to PM an address. | 
10-31-2009, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Nerve ...and make simple recordings.
i was asked to do a few bass and clarinet pieces in a show and given the music. my reading skills are worse than bad. the music is INCREDIBLY simple. would anyone here be willing and kind enough to record the basslines to a click if I sent em to ya?  I promise it's super simple stuff, it will just take me forever to learn in standard notation and an hour to learn if I can hear it and play it.
thanks to anyone who offers their help, and if others could bump this I'd appreciate it alo. | Oh. Read music. Never mind.  | 
11-01-2009, 04:48 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | Not hard, he says...so he sends me two songs, one that has a section where it bounces back and forth every bar between 4/4 and 3/4 and has a ton of ledger line notes. The other one wasn't too bad, but neither were what you'd call easy. But that's OK, Joe Nerve just drove home how I've let my sightreading chops go to hell, which is good to know so I can practice more. And it was a lot of fun. I only wish I could have played a complete take all at once. Instead, I punched back in when I made a mistake, and it wasn't what you'd call clean. I seemed to have some sort of offset going where the recording was slightly off from the actual beat, so I had some very sloppy punches. But hopefully it was good enough to learn the tunes.
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11-01-2009, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Not hard, he says...so he sends me two songs, one that has a section where it bounces back and forth every bar between 4/4 and 3/4 and has a ton of ledger line notes. The other one wasn't too bad, but neither were what you'd call easy. But that's OK, Joe Nerve just drove home how I've let my sightreading chops go to hell, which is good to know so I can practice more. And it was a lot of fun. I only wish I could have played a complete take all at once. | Ha ha! I'm glad it wasn't just me. The tune he sent me had sections written up to the B four ledger lines above the staff. Don't tell anyone, but I had to punch in a couple sections myself. But it was fun and I was happy to do it. | 
11-01-2009, 07:11 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm gonna send ya'll some cd's this week. Hope you enjoy them. Haven't started working with what you sent, will probably do that later in the week. I still have a set of originals to work on that I have to have down by tuesday, about 8 covers I never heard that I have to learn for a sub gig I'm doing on friday, I'm recording the entire day with another band today, and I have to make lesson plans before tomorrow morning for a new job I started as a long term sub at the HS I work at.
Believe me you guys just helped me IMMENSELY.
I am soooo happy I forgot today was daylight savings time. Got up an hour early which really helps.
Oh yeah, didn't really look past the first page of those songs. Had no idea there were time changes nor that the material gets complicated along the way. Thought it was all like the beginning of of the calypso one, which I was almost able to do myself. Sorry about that. | 
11-01-2009, 07:19 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | Ya, the first page of the Calypso Serenade was easy. You'll notice the punching doesn't start till the second page
Anyway, it was fun, and it taught me that I need to go back to practicing my sightreading, so it's all good...plus I'll be getting a couple CD's to rock.
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11-01-2009, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Febs Ha ha! I'm glad it wasn't just me. The tune he sent me had sections written up to the B four ledger lines above the staff. Don't tell anyone, but I had to punch in a couple sections myself. But it was fun and I was happy to do it. | I couldn't get that one down in one take, either - so I bunged it into Sibelius and let the PC take the strain (complete with calypso drum track, 7/4 section and all).
I find it really hard to play that sort of stuff from dots in isolation, with apparently random key sig and clef changes, accidentals stacked up on ledger lines above the stave, et cetera. It's much easier in an ensemble situation where you can hear how the part is meant to work with the rest of the tune.
If I was on the gig, I'd need to learn sections of that one off by heart, rather than keep reading when you're all the way up to top Bb, trying to keep track of what key you're in and get all the accidentals nailed at the same time, without looking at the fretboard. My reading obviously needs more work, too, Jimmy.
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11-01-2009, 09:05 AM
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now just remember, if joe asks you to help him move and he's got a couple of SMALL things, run like hell.................  | 
11-03-2009, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by IvanMike they sure sounded simple.............
now just remember, if joe asks you to help him move and he's got a couple of SMALL things, run like hell.................  |
Nice.
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