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08-11-2010, 05:17 PM
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This thread is not about religion but a history of blues and muslim slaves. And it's connection. http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-08-1...s-muslim-islam |
08-11-2010, 05:25 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF (North) Bay Area | | | Interesting read... I'll have to give the Muslim call to prayer and Levee Camp Holler a listen. Thanks for posting this! |
08-11-2010, 05:26 PM
| | | | Wow, very interesting. Thank you for posting! |
08-11-2010, 05:42 PM
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Fantastic article. Really enhanced my perspective on blues. I always have known about the obvious connection between blues and black enslavement in the US, but I don't think I have ever read anything that delves into the days before Africans were brought here and their inherent religious beliefs. All you ever hear about is how they were forced to convert once they arrived.
A very eye opening piece, thanks for posting.  |
08-11-2010, 05:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Greenville, South Carolina | | | Interesting article. I'd like to think that music could unite us all. I especially like the description of the "knife to the strings" origin of the slide. I need to listen to more Arabic music, but I can see the connection between the blues voice and Muslim voice in terms of vocals. |
08-11-2010, 05:59 PM
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08-11-2010, 06:00 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Horsham, PA (Philly suburb) | | | It is an interesting article, but strikes me more as propaganda than solid history. Perhaps there was some connection, but I'd have to see more solid scholarly verification to believe there is anything other than a negligible connection. Just my opinion. |
08-11-2010, 06:11 PM
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08-11-2010, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BobWestbrook  It is an interesting article, but strikes me more as propaganda than solid history. Perhaps there was some connection, but I'd have to see more solid scholarly verification to believe there is anything other than a negligible connection. Just my opinion. | Dr. Sylviane Diouf is a leading scholar in her field. Her work on Muslim slave history in America is virtually without equal. If you want scholarly work on the subject, read one of her many books, especially Servants of Allah.
To state that this is "propaganda" is, frankly, insulting, because I may be wrong, but I honestly don't think anyone would say the same thing if the article was about the connection between Christian church music and blues. |
08-11-2010, 06:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, UK | | | great article! |
08-11-2010, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BobWestbrook It is an interesting article, but strikes me more as propaganda than solid history. Perhaps there was some connection, but I'd have to see more solid scholarly verification to believe there is anything other than a negligible connection. Just my opinion. | how is it propaganda? for what? |
08-11-2010, 06:21 PM
| | BassMonkey | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville AL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BobWestbrook It is an interesting article, but strikes me more as propaganda than solid history. Perhaps there was some connection, but I'd have to see more solid scholarly verification to believe there is anything other than a negligible connection. Just my opinion. | Perhaps you should read again. Or at least read all of it. 
There is nothing resembling propaganda in this article. The article even concedes that it's hard to verify things historically. All it does (among other things) is point out in a very enlightening way the connections between the religious beliefs of some of the Africans that were enslaved here and some of the musical traditions that evolved from them being here. |
08-11-2010, 06:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Horsham, PA (Philly suburb) | | | Wow! Drink the kool-aid! |
08-11-2010, 06:34 PM
| | BassMonkey | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville AL | | Aw. Are someone's Christian sensibilities offended?  |
08-11-2010, 06:35 PM
| | | | Such a shame that even the most benign statements by a reputable scholar are dismissed as propaganda because it's not about about how all Muslims are freedom hating savages. |
08-11-2010, 06:36 PM
| | BassMonkey | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville AL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BobWestbrook Wow! Drink the kool-aid! | Explain your position on this then. |
08-11-2010, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BobWestbrook It is an interesting article, but strikes me more as propaganda than solid history. Perhaps there was some connection, but I'd have to see more solid scholarly verification to believe there is anything other than a negligible connection. Just my opinion. | I agree with you 100%. This is pure nonsense.
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08-11-2010, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocky I agree with you 100%. This is pure nonsense. |
How so? |
08-11-2010, 06:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Horsham, PA (Philly suburb) | | | Such an unwarranted vociferous and emotional response to my opinion belies a factual commitment and reveals an ideological one. |
08-11-2010, 06:42 PM
| | BassMonkey | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville AL | | | It's not unwarranted, you don't explain your position. Join the conversation. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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