British musicians: What to you think of the chart battle?

Sendaii · #1 12-19-2009, 03:36 AM

What to you think of the current chart battle between Rage Against The Machine and Joe McElderry?

Personally, I'm rooting for Rage. They are one of my favourite bands and Tim Commerford's funky lines have really inspired me as a bassist. It's really cool to see a band that I have stood behind for years finally get some chart love. Joe is a brilliant singer and he is from my area, but that isn't enough to make me support a talent competition winner over a band who has put years and years of work into getting to where they are today. The chart results will be announced tomorrow, here's hoping

In related news, my sister is getting all pissy at me because I bought Killing In The Name instead of Joe's Miley Cyrus cover

Mr. Lovejoy · #2 12-19-2009, 03:43 AM

I never understood the idea of making the billboard charts music's personal pissing contest.

A meaningful pissing contest at least.

J.R · #3 12-19-2009, 03:48 AM

http://england.shelter.org.uk/news/d...r_of_facebook!

BarkerBass · #4 12-19-2009, 04:02 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUGeoJtTnZQ

I'm not a huge fan of Tim's tone in this clip, or the torn up "punk" state of his rig but I do like his playing and that red jazz is beautiful!

The chart battle is a good idea started by grass roots fans who are just fed up of X-factor and commercially produced pop filling the charts and so I support it, and the reaction at the end of that youtube clip from the radio station really shows how most people think.... ridiculous IMHO

Darko74 · #5 12-19-2009, 04:07 AM

I'm not British but anyways......
Arn't they both on the same record label? So the real winner is Sony. In fact they must be loving this. Though they did say they'll give SOME of the money to charity. Anyways still hope Rage get it! I love them.

Sendaii · #6 12-19-2009, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Darko74

I'm not British but anyways......
Arn't they both on the same record label? So the real winner is Sony. In fact they must be loving this. Though they did say they'll give SOME of the money to charity. Anyways still hope Rage get it! I love them.

This isn't about stopping Sony or Simon Cowell from making money, it's about knocking X Factor crap off the Chirstmas No.1 spot.

Defacto · #7 12-19-2009, 04:24 AM

I bought rage. I hate X-factor, I hate the people who insist on talking at great length about such and such having a great voice, because...to be honest, they are generally all rubbish. Its not a talent competition, its a popularity contest.

I know that buying the Rage track is essentially pointless, but perhaps if the X-factor track doesn't get number 1, then the show will lose popularity with potential contestants. This will hopefully lead to the inevitable demise of the show, sooner rather than later.

Wishful thinking perhaps.

Sendaii · #8 12-19-2009, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BarkerBass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUGeoJtTnZQ

I'm not a huge fan of Tim's tone in this clip, or the torn up "punk" state of his rig but I do like his playing and that red jazz is beautiful!

Yeah, I have to say, he sounds about as clear as mud. Doesn't stop it from being a brilliant performance though, and you've gotta love Zach and his no censorship attitude. Only a guy like that would say "f**k" repeatedly while on air on a family radio station and not bat an eyelid

s_mcsleazy · #9 12-19-2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Darko74

I'm not British but anyways......
Arn't they both on the same record label? So the real winner is Sony. In fact they must be loving this. Though they did say they'll give SOME of the money to charity. Anyways still hope Rage get it! I love them.

yeah well owned by the same record lable

plus simons going to get more publicity for this

and no offence but i like how the song choosen has the lyrics **** you i wont do what you tell me yet the guy whose running the page on facebook pretty much tells people to download this song at the same time

Sendaii · #10 12-19-2009, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by s_mcsleazy

yeah well owned by the same record lable

plus simons going to get more publicity for this

and no offence but i like how the song choosen has the lyrics **** you i wont do what you tell me yet the guy whose running the page on facebook pretty much tells people to download this song at the same time

Once again, this isn't about who makes money and who doesn't, it's about showing Simon Cowell that the X Factor winner is not guaranteed the Christmas number 1 even though he's had it since 2004.

Bruce Lindfield · #11 12-19-2009, 08:46 AM

The way I see it - the charts haven't mattered for many years now and especially since there is no chart show on national TV...

In the 80s it was important that say, God Save the Queen was an antidote to jingoism and so was it "rigged" not to get to No 1?

Also - the fact that the Smiths or the Jam entered the charts at No 1 was a boost for "real bands" !

But since "Top of the Pops" disappeared and sales of singles went through the floor - it all seems irrelevant nowadays and this seems like a "manufactured" attempt to revive interest in it...?

The Golden age of the charts has long gone, I'm afraid...

**bassybill** · #12 12-20-2009, 02:00 PM

Well, RATM got it and Cowell's clone did not. A small result in the grander scheme of things, though.

i_got_a_mohawk · #13 12-20-2009, 02:37 PM

I'm glad it happened. Glad I bought my copy.

Don't care about the monatory side of the record business, it is always going to be there. Would at least like to see some real creativity going into music.

Also good to know there is going to be a lot of money going to charity from this

chrisisnotevil · #14 12-20-2009, 03:34 PM

I heard Killing In The Name... first when Bruno Brookes played it in it's entirety on Radio 1's chart show 17 years ago, when I was 11. Changed my life, seriously. It being Xmas #1 gives me an enormous sense of happiness. The huge charity donation and free show next year are the icing on the big angry cake!

The Mock Turtle Regulator · #15 12-21-2009, 09:38 AM

on the BBC news page they say that the facebook page instigator John Morter's last campaign was trying to get Rick Astley to no.1....hmmm, displacing manufactured music eh.....

thepocket83 · #16 12-22-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by s_mcsleazy

yeah well owned by the same record lable

plus simons going to get more publicity for this

and no offence but i like how the song choosen has the lyrics **** you i wont do what you tell me yet the guy whose running the page on facebook pretty much tells people to download this song at the same time

I personally couldn't give a **** about Simon or his record label. That is something that will be there wether or not I buy Rages single or not etc. I don't want to hurt Simon in the pocket. I want to hurt the monopoly on british chart music that x Factor has.

The facebook group gives you the CHOICE on wether or not to download the single. Frankly, I would rather join an organized effort to oust a bland pop ballad than buy a random song of my choosing which would make absolutely no impact.

I chose to rebel against the charts because it's something that I care about.

Were you born 50?

Bruce Lindfield · #17 12-22-2009, 04:25 AM

The low number of singles sold, required to get into the Charts nowadays, renders all of this meaningless - it's no big deal and no way will any of this hurt the X Factor machine - which will be revelling in the publicity this generated and the fact it will boost ticket sales for their UK tour - where they will make real money, along with TV Ad Revenues!

The singles market is just a publicity thing and ironically all of this "controversy" has generated more of this - which has played right into Simon Cowells hands - he couldn't have planned it better!!

chrisisnotevil · #18 12-22-2009, 06:08 AM

Found out I work for the same people as Jon Morter. Legend.