Can anybody explain to me, what Progressive Death Metal Is?

Hellbastard · #1 08-06-2007, 05:38 PM

I'm in a sort of a void here, I have been a fan of 80's death metal music for a long time but I haven't really listened to a lot of new DM stuff. Nowadays I've found In the world wide web a lot of new bands and people who are playing what is now consider as "Progressive Death Metal". I don't understand this I tried to listen to some bands of this new genre (New to me at least) like Necrophagist, Nile and Mortician but they all to me sound pretty much the same and I feel this guys have a lot of chops and play a lot of scales and, kind of, paste them together but there's no structure in their songs.
Does anybody know how should I approach to this music?
Can anybody explain waht Progressive Death Metal is?
I would really appreciate it.

J.D.B. · #2 08-06-2007, 06:12 PM

It "progresses" until it dies?
Josh

steve21 · #3 08-06-2007, 06:44 PM

OPETH

Anscari · #4 08-07-2007, 03:34 AM

More boring noises and guys screming the **** out of their throats.

Hellbastard · #5 08-07-2007, 03:57 AM

Well if Opeth is progressive Death Metal IMO it's even more boring that what I thought it was. (Can this guys play something under 7 minutes, Boring)
I mean what happen to the brutality behind Death Metal, Power riffs and great Vocalists, nowadays all of this bands are just 320BPM and horrible vocals, something ´beetween a Pig been stabbed and a troll that came out of The woods of Norway.
Does anybody feel the same, or am I too traditional on my metal tastes (Closed minded some might say)

Asa Samuel · #6 08-07-2007, 03:59 AM

well progressive rock always seemed to go on forever so mabey its death metal that never stops?

Jazz Ad · #7 08-07-2007, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hellbastard

Can this guys play something under 7 minutes, Boring

Looks like you're not into progressive music.

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all of this bands are just 320BPM and horrible vocals, something ´beetween a Pig been stabbed and a troll that came out of The woods of Norway.

Looks like you're not into death metal.

It doesn't really matter, there are many other styles you will enjoy. Don't hurt yourself listening to things you don't enjoy.

lemur821 · #8 08-07-2007, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hellbastard

Well if Opeth is progressive Death Metal IMO it's even more boring that what I thought it was.

I agree that Opeth is mind-numbingly boring. Necrophagist and the others you list are more tech/brutal death.

Hellbastard · #9 08-07-2007, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazz Ad

Looks like you're not into progressive music.Looks like you're not into death metal..

I do like progressive rock: Yes, Rush, ELP, King crimson but that's another kind of monster
And as I stated I really like 80's death Metal, Morbid Angel, Carcass, Asphyx type of stuff.

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Originally Posted by Jazz Ad

It doesn't really matter, there are many other styles you will enjoy. Don't hurt yourself listening to things you don't enjoy.

It's not that it hurts, I've tried to listen to it, but everytime I listen I end up saying "this guys are really good" but it doesn't get to the point where I'd say "Wow, This is definetely mind blowing"
Hellbastard

dlloyd · #10 08-07-2007, 04:57 AM

I'm guessing they ripped the "Progressive" moniker from Prog Rock. "Progressive" in this respect generally means "trying to show you're clever".

Long tunes with lots of different fiddly bits, possibly in "difficult" time signatures. Lots of key changes, themes etc. All songs on the CD will be tied by some sort of common concept.

dlloyd · #11 08-07-2007, 05:01 AM

Yeah, sounds like I was right... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_m...ve_death_metal

Hellbastard · #12 08-07-2007, 05:18 AM

Well now I gotta add something more, because according to the article in wiki progressive death metal it's not what I thought, Because Amorphis, Death, Pestilence are in my OK list. According to http://www.metal-archives.com/ the bands I am referring to are Progressive/Technical Death Metal (wow, what a bunch of genres in one band).
Which to me now explains that this bands are just a show off of technical abilities and no feeling (If one can say feeling while talking about death

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theNoseBleedKid · #13 08-07-2007, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hellbastard

Well if Opeth is progressive Death Metal IMO it's even more boring that what I thought it was. (Can this guys play something under 7 minutes, Boring)
I mean what happen to the brutality behind Death Metal, Power riffs and great Vocalists, nowadays all of this bands are just 320BPM and horrible vocals, something ´beetween a Pig been stabbed and a troll that came out of The woods of Norway.
Does anybody feel the same, or am I too traditional on my metal tastes (Closed minded some might say)

Because there is NOTHING more entertaining then someone, no matter the genre, undermining their artistic vision for your patience. Geez, I mean Tchaikovsky should have cut his 5th symphony down from an hour, it's hardly a masterpiece.

There is a plethora of slower metal out there, maybe if you search further than the current teenage ramblings you'd find it

MaskedJackal · #14 08-07-2007, 04:53 PM

Three words:

ATHEIST ATHEIST ATHEIST

Amazing fusiony riffs and arrangements on the second two albums. Fantastic bass playing and the drums...well..I still wonder if Steve seriously only has two arms. The whole band just has great interplay and keeps the songs short.

If you want a different side of the same coin, go check out Cynic.

Hellbastard · #15 08-07-2007, 05:01 PM

Well Mr. Jackal, I was wondering when you were going to appear. Yes I have listened to atheist and yes they`re progressive, but they're not really my piece of cake.
I appreaciate the reccomendation though.
Maybe I shloud just drop the "I'mtrrying to like this genre" and follow Jazz ad advice to not to try to enjoy something I don't.

opiumforthesoul · #16 08-07-2007, 05:58 PM

I personally don't believe that there are many progressive death metal bands around. People often confuse a technical band with a progressive one although I don't believe that there is too much of a difference. I can tell you for sure that bands like Nile and Mortician are nothing close to progressive and are bad examples of new death metal bands. I'm drawing a blank when it comes to new progressive bands, the only one I can think of is Hieronymus Bosch. If you don't know about them already, some older bands that have a technical/progressive feel yet still write coherent songs are Nocturnus, Sentenced, Kobong, Cynic and maybe Afflicted.

If you are interested in some new death metal bands that capture the old swedish/finnish sound I'd be more then happy to give you a list.

MysticMichael · #17 08-07-2007, 06:15 PM

Q. Can anybody explain to me, what Progressive Death Metal Is?
A. Yes. An oxymoron.

MM

owensea777 · #18 08-07-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticMichael

Q. Can anybody explain to me, what Progressive Death Metal Is?
A. Yes. An oxymoron.

MM

Yes, how can something be progressive and death metal? I could see progressive metal, just like progressive rock but more...metal...but death metal is a very specific category

Dan Molina · #19 08-07-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by steve21

OPETH

+1

What I love about Opeth is you can listen to one of their songs 20 times, and each time you listen you pick out something that you didn't hear before.

Anscari · #20 08-08-2007, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Molina

+1

What I love about Opeth is you can listen to one of their songs 20 times, and each time you listen you pick out something that you didn't hear before.

Commonly, this sort of thing can come by two factors...

1st: The song is very good.

2nd: The song has too many things on it.

Having heard Opeth and all that "Death Metal" (which I continue considering, along with "Doom Metal", "Brutal Metal", and "Sludge Metal" the most stupid genre name in the world) stuff around, I absolutely go for the second option.