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07-02-2007, 10:28 PM
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If you sing a song written for someone of the opposite sex as you (e.g. you're a girl singing a song written for a guy to sing) do you change the "shes" to "hes" or vice versa? Or do you sing it how it was originally intended?
Just curious 
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07-02-2007, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by disenchant Changing lyrics for your sex | Well...I think that'd be a pretty fair swap... 
(ok, for my serious reply: )
If its being sung in the first person perspective, and made me sound all gay, (not that there's anything wrong with that) I'd sure change the name, or him/he to she or her.
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07-02-2007, 11:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Northern VA | | | Keep it the same, no question. Have some confidence. See for example the White Stripes doing "Jolene" which totally kicks ass. |
07-03-2007, 12:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | It can turn out really cheesy if you change it, especially in a song where the he/she thing comes up a lot.
Celine Dion doing "You shook me all night long" that was one of the many things that was wrong with that cover.
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07-03-2007, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dancehallclasher Keep it the same, no question. Have some confidence. See for example the White Stripes doing "Jolene" which totally kicks ass. | Nothing the White Stripes ever did kicked any ass.
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07-03-2007, 06:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Finland | | I'd change, but I prefer to skip those songs completely.
I once heard a band playing "Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)" by Abba with a man singing the original vocals...  And it wasn't a prank either AFAIK.
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07-03-2007, 06:47 AM
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07-03-2007, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Till Celine Dion doing "You shook me all night long" that was one of the many things that was wrong with that cover. | Oh man, that's flawed from the very concept. |
07-03-2007, 07:07 AM
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07-03-2007, 09:15 AM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | I don't change them.
It gives it a whole new meaning, usually turns it into a gay love song, sort of, with which I'm fine. |
07-03-2007, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TrooperFarva Nothing the White Stripes ever did kicked any ass. | Yeah, +1.
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07-03-2007, 10:05 AM
|  | A Hard Rockin Lover of GREENBURST Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | | | I have recently thought about this and I would give it a try but I dont know how well a change would fit.
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07-03-2007, 11:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Britain | | | If i was just singing to my self round the house i would keep it the same. My band does a cover of "Toxic" by Britney Spears and our singer changes "a boy like you" to "a girl like you"
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07-03-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TrooperFarva Yes, of course my opinion is silly, because it isn't the same as yours. Sure, others have agreed with me, but that doesn't matter. | No, it's silly because it's irritatingly musician-centric. People like you have to evaluate music by asking themselves "how good is the drummer? How good is the guitar player?" And even more ridiculously, "how highly RATED is the guitar player? I mean sure, he's good, but he's too highly rated! Therefore nothing the band has ever done has been good, blah!"
Sorry for singling you out but I'm sick of this crap. Nobody ever says of the White Stripes that their songs don't have catchy hooks, or the lyrics are awful, or any of the much more damning criticisms that can be made of many bands full of virtuoso musicians. It's just "drummer sucks, case closed" and even that totally misses the simplistic, rootsy feel the songs are going for.
Anyway speaking of the Stripes, take Joss Stone's "Fell in Love with a Boy." That's just a lame change to me. If you're going to do a cover let it rest on the strength of your interpretation, not a gimmicky lyric change. |
07-03-2007, 11:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Western PA | | | We change them. It's barely noticeable.
It's girls like you, Micki!
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07-03-2007, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dancehallclasher No, it's silly because it's irritatingly musician-centric. People like you have to evaluate music by asking themselves "how good is the drummer? How good is the guitar player?" And even more ridiculously, "how highly RATED is the guitar player? I mean sure, he's good, but he's too highly rated! Therefore nothing the band has ever done has been good, blah!" | Yeah, basing my like of a band not on their popularity, but their talent. How petty. And I don't think Jack White is good. At all. He's just better than the drummer. Quote:
Originally Posted by dancehallclasher Sorry for singling you out but I'm sick of this crap. Nobody ever says of the White Stripes that their songs don't have catchy hooks, or the lyrics are awful, or any of the much more damning criticisms that can be made of many bands full of virtuoso musicians. It's just "drummer sucks, case closed" and even that totally misses the simplistic, rootsy feel the songs are going for. | I don't find their songs catchy, and their lyrics are meaningless overall. I don't have a problem with simple parts. Adam Clayton plays simple parts. Meg White is just a bad drummer.
But ultimately, I don't blame the White Stripes, it's modern music in general that went down the toilet. I haven't heard a great new album since El Cielo.
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07-03-2007, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TrooperFarva Yeah, basing my like of a band not on their popularity, but their talent. How petty. And I don't think Jack White is good. At all. He's just better than the drummer. | I said nothing about popularity. I'm talking about songcraft, not simple musicianship. And I understand that now you're going to have to say you don't like their playing or their songwriting or their lyrics or their production values or anything about them because I called you out on it, so you can save it. But I'd definitely like to hear a bit of your catchy, super-talented, lyrically ingenious band, because it sounds like for you being better than the White Stripes is easier than falling off a log and I'm always on the lookout for good music. |
07-03-2007, 02:12 PM
|  | Ojo. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Beaumont/Calimesa, CA | | | well, back on topic: no, i don't. i just sing the song.
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07-03-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TrooperFarva Meg White is just a bad drummer. | I saw them about a year and half ago.
Live she is a VERY GOOD DRUMMER!!!!
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07-03-2007, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dancehallclasher I said nothing about popularity. I'm talking about songcraft, not simple musicianship. And I understand that now you're going to have to say you don't like their playing or their songwriting or their lyrics or their production values or anything about them because I called you out on it, so you can save it. But I'd definitely like to hear a bit of your catchy, super-talented, lyrically ingenious band, because it sounds like for you being better than the White Stripes is easier than falling off a log and I'm always on the lookout for good music. | I said previously that I don't like their lyrics or their songwriting. It was in the part of the post that you deleted. But even if I didn't, I don't have to 'save' anything, I've stated my points very clearly, all you've done is whine about how you're sick of people bashing on the White Stripes. I've answered your points, you've not answered any of mine. So I see no point in continuing this argument.
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