Chick Corea's "Spain"

AmazingGracePlayer · #1 01-26-2007, 04:45 PM

Has anyone listened to Chick Corea's song Spain? It's a great song... Also, does anyone happen to have the tabs they could share with me?

I found the piano score here
http://www.lucaspickford.com/transspainspecial.html

but I think it'll be a lot easier if I have the tabs too...

Jason Hollar · #2 01-26-2007, 05:01 PM

PM sent.

The best chart is in the New Legal Real Book 2.

I did cheat though -- and used a program called the Amazing Slow Downer to help learn the cool lick.

Stanley Clarke is amazing on this!

Good luck...

FretlessArt · #3 01-26-2007, 05:11 PM

Ever since I found out that Chick is a Major Scientologist Grand Pooba, his music sounds mechanical to me. Perhaps you could recommend something he recorded after Eye of the beholder...

Baryonyx · #4 01-27-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FretlessArt

Ever since I found out that Chick is a Major Scientologist Grand Pooba, his music sounds mechanical to me. Perhaps you could recommend something he recorded after Eye of the beholder...

With a band called "Return to Forever", albums like "Where have I known you before" and "Hymn of the seventh galaxy", did it not seem immediatley apparent, or at least suspicious?

Does anyone know if Stanley Clarke is a scientologist? With songs like "Life is just a game", this has got me thinking!

And TS, if you search the tablature forums you'll find a thread on Spain.

ding_man · #5 01-27-2007, 07:11 AM

Yeah he was but he's not anymore.

Brad Johnson · #6 01-27-2007, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FretlessArt

Ever since I found out that Chick is a Major Scientologist Grand Pooba, his music sounds mechanical to me. Perhaps you could recommend something he recorded after Eye of the beholder...

How did it sound before you found out?

AmazingGracePlayer · #7 01-27-2007, 07:26 AM

I guess nobody has the tabs then... haha

BassManPatsFan · #8 01-27-2007, 08:50 AM

I doubt you'd find tabs for a jazz tune like Spain, but I could be wrong. I haven't really looked at any of those tab sites in a while (didn't a lot of them get shut down?) I know there is a transcription of Spain in one of the Real Books (notes, not tab...).
-Alex

Baryonyx · #9 01-27-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson

How did it sound before you found out?

I've always thought RTF sounded quite mechanical. I mean, everything is so tightly arranged with no room for improvisation. It doesn't matter much to me though, the tunes themselves are fantastic!

WillBuckingham · #10 01-27-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris2112

I've always thought RTF sounded quite mechanical. I mean, everything is so tightly arranged with no room for improvisation. It doesn't matter much to me though, the tunes themselves are fantastic!

No room for imrpovisation??? Listen again.

AmazingGracePlayer · #11 01-28-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WillBuckingham

No room for imrpovisation??? Listen again.

I think he means "not enough rom for improvisation," because the melody is about 24 bars and the improv. is about 8 bars... so...

Brad Johnson · #12 01-28-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris2112

I've always thought RTF sounded quite mechanical. I mean, everything is so tightly arranged with no room for improvisation. It doesn't matter much to me though, the tunes themselves are fantastic!

I was asking how it sounded before he found out about Chick's theological leanings.

If I found out that Chick was a necrophiliac, I still can't imagine the musically suddenly sounding different.

ColtraneWorship · #13 01-30-2007, 05:54 PM

I think they were a great band. I did not know Chick Corea was a scientologist until recently, but i really don't care. Instrumental music is not like lyrical music, at least for me. It's not the same thing to listen to "I've got you under my skin" than listening to "Spain".

While the first clearly conveys a message, expressed in the words, in the second, the interpretation is very much up to the listener.

You can hear Chick Corea saying "scientology is the best, come to the cult, you'll be happy as i am... and i'll teach you how to play like me!!!"

I do not, and that is why i keep on listening to their music.

Coltrane was a muslim, and i will not stop listening to him (me being an atheist), just because i don't have his beliefs.

Unless the message of the song is clearly expressed through words, i make my own message.

FretlessArt · #14 01-30-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson

How did it sound before you found out?

The scientology discovery came as I was trying to figure out why I wasn't enjoying an album that I use to really like.

I saw electric band 3 or 4 times in the 80s and was always inspired by the super chops. After 12+ years when revisiting some of this stuff, I am finding these recordings unable to stir emotion and feeling. Its like a exhibition of skill to me and I no longer relate to it. (its Clear if emotion) 100% in control.

Its my fault that I don't understand his art work not his. Ive been reluctant to explore his later catalog though.

On the other hand I have heard Chick featured on a Paco Delucia composition that blows my mind everytime I play it.

Brad Johnson · #15 01-30-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FretlessArt

The scientology discovery came as I was trying to figure out why I wasn't enjoying an album that I use to really like.

So you concluded one had something to do with the other?

Quote:

I saw electric band 3 or 4 times in the 80s and was always inspired by the super chops. After 12+ years when revisiting some of this stuff, I am finding these recordings unable to stir emotion and feeling. Its like a exhibition of skill to me and I no longer relate to it. (its Clear if emotion) 100% in control.

Its my fault that I don't understand his art work not his. Ive been reluctant to explore his later catalog though.

On the other hand I have heard Chick featured on a Paco Delucia composition that blows my mind everytime I play it.

There's a very simple explanation, at least to me... some music holds up much better than others.

FretlessArt · #16 01-30-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson

So you concluded one had something to do with the other?

There's a very simple explanation, at least to me... some music holds up much better than others.

A persons life experience has a huge influence on their creative endevours.

Brad Johnson · #17 01-31-2007, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FretlessArt

A persons life experience has a huge influence on their creative endevours.

Huh? The only thing that "changed" about Chick's music since you first heard it and then revisited it is... you. So what would his religion have to do with changing your perception of his music from then til now? His religion at those stages didn'tchange.

MakiSupaStar · #18 01-31-2007, 10:55 PM

Great song. Even if he is a scientologist. Still a great song in and of itself.

MD · #19 02-02-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by htotheh

Has anyone listened to Chick Corea's song Spain? It's a great song... Also, does anyone happen to have the tabs they could share with me?

I found the piano score here
http://www.lucaspickford.com/transspainspecial.html

but I think it'll be a lot easier if I have the tabs too...

Don't know of any tabs, but on a side note....

The piano score looked really odd. I went to the amazon link on the transcription page and listened to the clip. This version is VERY different from the original, 1973 recording on "Light as a Feather".

In addition to being in the New Real BookII, it's also at the back of the original Real Book 5th Edition. The 5th edition chart has the rubato intro
from '73 as well. If you need it, a PDF of the original RB's can be downlaoded here:
http://www.members.shaw.ca/glitch/real.html

M.

BassManPatsFan · #20 02-02-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htotheh

I think he means "not enough rom for improvisation," because the melody is about 24 bars and the improv. is about 8 bars... so...

I get the feeling you have no idea what you're talking about...
Do you mean that every Return to Forever song is 32 bars with a 24 bar head and only 8 bar solos? That makes absolutely no sense.
I strongly disagree with Scientology like many on here, but that's not what's being discussed in this thread...Chic Corea is a master pianist no matter what he believes in (or pretends to for extra $$).
-Alex