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View Poll Results: Cliff's best?
Anaesthesia 8 34.78%
Orion 12 52.17%
Other (Please state) 3 13.04%
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:59 PM
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When i see people talk about Cliff on this board, they usually attest his skill to either Anesthesia or Orion. So I'm curious, what do you think his best display of skill? If you select other say what it is.

I gotta go with anesthesia, i know i know its harder to be musical than it is too be fast blah blah blah, but im young and foolish and playing like that really impresses me. What about you?
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Kinda wierd for me, my favorite Cliff piece is so buried in the mix that I've never been able to hear it clearly. He has a little solo chunk in the beginning of "Call of Ktulu" but it's almost impossible to hear it. I have the book though, and it sounds pretty damn good when I play it.

But as for the best "display of skill", I'd have to go with Orion. Anesthesia is faster and has a wider variety of techniques, but Orion is much more beautiful of a song. His solo is freakin' gorgeus and better then Anesthesia IMO. I love Anesthesia too, but this Orion just sounds better to me, especially the way Cliff and the guitars work together toward the end.
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To put it blunty, I think Anesthesia is a incredibly non musical piece of non music. Oooh arpeggios and wah... oooh. A lot of people make a point of "well, you can't judge to harshly, it's one of the first metal bass solos." I refuse to give "cred" on stuff like that... I close my eyes and think, "Does this sound good"... and if the answer is no, I don't care who they are.

Orion's "guitar" bass solo is actually pretty damn cool though.
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I had to vote for Orion... I like both but Orion just puts me in a different place when I listen to it.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:58 AM
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gotta go with orion, it really is a pretty piece, and one of the first songs I partially learned then got pisse d at and walked away from.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:40 AM
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The entire Ride the Lightning album. Ktulu has a great bass solo, Cliff really makes the song work. Ride the Lightning has some awesome bass work under the slow guitar break leading into the solo, very catchy and neat even if its highly buried. Fade to Black has a very simple but extremely effective bassline, with some cool fills under the outro solo (check the live version on Cliff em All). Creeping Death is another of my favorites (again check the live version if possible, Cliff is less buried).
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Cliff had a great Melodic ear which brought some true unique character to Lightning and Puppets.
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How about the beginning of Disposable Heroes, when the bass comes in and joins the riffing guitar. That's probably my favorite Cliff moment

(honorable mention: beginning of Leper Messiah)
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I think its pretty damn ignorant for someone to make smart ass comments about people being killed in serious motor vehicle accidents. Some people shouldn't be allowed to post here if all they're going to do is make comments that some people don't want to hear and may take offence too. Personally, say something relevant or shut up.

I wonder how some people would like it if something like that happened to someone they cared for and then someone said, "It was the best thing he ever did."

By the way, I voted for Orion.

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My favorite Cliff part is the intro to Damage, Inc. That volume pedal thingy sounds great, very atmospheric and powerful, and the rest of the song is great too!
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Yadda yadda yadda...

that was in horrible taste

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To put it blunty, I think Anesthesia is a incredibly non musical piece of non music. Oooh arpeggios and wah... oooh. A lot of people make a point of "well, you can't judge to harshly, it's one of the first metal bass solos." I refuse to give "cred" on stuff like that... I close my eyes and think, "Does this sound good"... and if the answer is no, I don't care who they are.

Orion's "guitar" bass solo is actually pretty damn cool though.


whats wrong with arpeggios and wah?
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I don't recall any bass solo in Orion. What part is it in? (what time)
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Cliff who?
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Orion's bass "solo" was at about 4:00, although it's more of a riff. Really cool, regardless.
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I'd have to say, either any of the live solos i've seen (Cliff 'Em All), or Call of Ktulu. . . I like To Live is to Die, too. (Based on riffs Cliff wrote).
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whats wrong with arpeggios and wah?

There is nothing overly musical about it... it's not well written. A bunch of crap thrown together, not all that well composed.
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There is nothing overly musical about it... it's not well written. A bunch of crap thrown together, not all that well composed.
not at all...
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