Coldplay?

heath_the_great · #1 06-19-2006, 12:01 AM

is anyone on here into this band? i seriously cannot stand coldplay, overall they send me to sleep, their music pretty much sounds the same, his voice annoys the hell outta me...

superbassman2000 · #2 06-19-2006, 12:47 AM

i like them...i don't like their new cd, but i like their older stuff...

xcental34x · #3 06-19-2006, 01:02 AM

I like them. Not everyone is going to be able to appreciate a certain style or sound. If everyone liked the exact same stuff, then the world would be a pretty boring place.

Basshole · #4 06-19-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xcental34x

If everyone liked the exact same stuff, then the world would be a pretty boring place.

Yeah, but that's just the problem. All of their stuff sounds like the "exact same stuff".

My ex-GF used to listen to that sh!t. I hate her, I hate them.

One song she played me of theirs came just slightly shy of not completely sucking...

xcental34x · #5 06-19-2006, 01:18 AM

Obviously you're not listening to them quite close enough if "all of their stuff sounds like the 'exact same stuff.'" Go suck an egg.

maju dragon · #6 06-19-2006, 01:23 AM

i love coldplay. chris martins vocals are amazing.
i like all three albums a lot. and no, i dont believe that all their stuff sounds the same. but thats just my opinion....

Basshole · #7 06-19-2006, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by xcental34x

Obviously you're not listening to them quite close enough if "all of their stuff sounds like the 'exact same stuff.'" Go suck an egg.

Martybass · #8 06-19-2006, 01:31 AM

I like. Dunno how it could send you to sleep while the vocals are annoying you though

Also, I don't know why there's always someone who has to chuck in a derogatory comment

Anyway, I agree with xcental34x, nothing is the 'exact same stuff', but it's going to be similar, otherwise there's no continuity in a band's 'sound' It's like car manufacturers having a common styling look over their models.

Marty

Bruce Lindfield · #9 06-19-2006, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by heath_the_great

is anyone on here into this band? i seriously cannot stand coldplay, overall they send me to sleep, their music pretty much sounds the same, his voice annoys the hell outta me...

Agree - the only thing more boring... are their bass lines!!

carl-anton · #10 06-19-2006, 03:40 AM

I like them, though their mainstreampleasing seems to limit them. Boring basslines? Maybe most of the time, but I wouldn't mind having come up with the line for White Shadows on X&Y (and Chris Martin probally would't mind having come up with the chorus... but Prince did). The bassline for Clocks works well too, I think.

Martybass · #11 06-19-2006, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

Agree - the only thing more boring... are their bass lines!!

Therein lies the problem. As bassists, are we not allowed to like a song if it has a generic, root noted bassline?

Obviously just about all of mainstream music is boring...

carl-anton · #12 06-19-2006, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Martybass

Therein lies the problem. As bassists, are we not allowed to like a song if it has a generic, root noted bassline?

Only if it's played by some badass of whom we can say 'he grooves'. If it's a popstar with no basscredits, it's a no-go

heath_the_great · #13 06-19-2006, 04:06 AM

to be honest i havent listened closely enough to listen to the bass line, but thats not what attracts me to an artist 50% of the time....its just that their sound is so droney and dragged out....dont get me wrong, i love alot of mainstream music (snoop dogg, john mayer, prince, etc etc), but his voice is just so whispy and empty....and to me it sounds like the band has no evolutionary capabilites, well none that they've displayed...

but changing their sound does not mean theres no continuinity, look at prince, john mayer, rhcp...their albums are mildly-considerably different from one to the next wether style or if their just evolving as a artist/group but they still manage to have their "sound"

carl-anton · #14 06-19-2006, 04:11 AM

Though I like Coldplay I couldn't agree more. Precisely because of the reasons you mention RCHP is much higher on my list than cp. They might not even be on the same list

Bruce Lindfield · #15 06-19-2006, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Martybass

Therein lies the problem. As bassists, are we not allowed to like a song if it has a generic, root noted bassline?

Obviously just about all of mainstream music is boring...

Yup - I would certainly agree with your last statement - and maybe with your first!

But basslines don't have to be like that even in mainstream pop - so the Maroon 5 recent hit, had a nice funky bassy line; some of Travis's hits had interesting basslines - listen to "Side".

I was listrening to an oldies station at the weekend and they played the Doobies' "China Grove " and it has a great bassline!! How about "Hit me with your rhythm stick " - which is being used on a TV advert currently - great bassline!!

Most mainstream music is dull and boring - musically speaking - but if you listen more actively you can find some great stuff!!

markjazzbassist · #16 06-19-2006, 07:20 AM

i like their stuff. i own all their albums too. i think their sound has evolved over time, they don't sound like the blue room ep anymore. i think it's beautiful music to listen to. real chill. they are great songwriters and musicians (they leave a lot of space, the songs really breathe).

Bruce Lindfield · #17 06-19-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by markjazzbassist

... the songs really breathe).

Like someone on a respirator.....

Basshole · #18 06-19-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

Like someone on a respirator.....

Martybass · #19 06-19-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

But basslines don't have to be like that even in mainstream pop - so the Maroon 5 recent hit, had a nice funky bassy line; some of Travis's hits had interesting basslines - listen to "Side".

Well it's all got to do with the feel of the song, and the artists' opinions on how it should be played. You said it with Travis, some of them had interesting basslines. Sometimes it shouldn't stand out.

Just like that, there are some good lines in Coldplay (White Shadows, as carl-anton said, but again, some lines take a back seat.

Every one to themselves though. If a bassline doesn't hit me immediately (or even ever), I don't rule it out as a good song. Equally, if it's got a technically good line, the overall effect could still be terrible. Good line and good song...bonus!

Though I like Coldplay, and do listen to it properly sometimes, I do tend to see it as more 'background' music. Maybe that's why some people don't like it, because it doesn't always stand out, but there are times when you want that. I know I do at least.

Marty.

jwl · #20 06-19-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by markjazzbassist

i like their stuff. i own all their albums too. i think their sound has evolved over time, they don't sound like the blue room ep anymore. i think it's beautiful music to listen to. real chill. they are great songwriters and musicians (they leave a lot of space, the songs really breathe).

i agree with what you are saying, but for me, it's like their songs start out great, but never quite make it off the ground or kick into high gear. i'm sure their bank accounts have though. jeff