Completely different song, same bass line

[FatCity]

Wanted Dead or Alive- Bon Jovi
Gone to Carolina- Shooter Jennings and the 357's

[nortonrider]

anything with the Bo Diddley Beat.

[bass12]

Originally Posted by sandmangeck

I am pretty sure there isn't a bass line in When Dove's Cry?

[hrodbert696]

Originally Posted by fmoore200

Happens in rap all the time:

Mc hammer used Rick James' 'super freak' on 'can't touch this'

Vanilla Ice used Queen's 'under pressure' on 'ice ice baby'

I could go on...

And Rick James got it from After the Fire's hit Der Kommissar, which was an English translation of Falco's song - the first German rap song, if I remember right.

Anyway, I learned "Superstition" from a Stevie Ray Vaughan cover since I didn't have a copy of the original Stevie Wonder recording. Played it with a band that didn't go anywhere. Only later, listening to a Stevie Wonder version, did it occur to me that the SRV version a) was different and b) had the same bass riff as Play That Funky Music White Boy.

Oh, also The Romantics' What I Like About You and John Mellencamp's R-O-C-K in the USA. Kind of an obvious one.

The chorus of Paralyzer (Finger 11) bears a striking resemblance to the main riff (I don't know if you can really split the song in verses and choruses) of Franz Ferdinand's Take Me Out. It's not exactly the same, but close enough that both bands will sometimes perform a medley blending the songs together pretty seamlessly.

[fmoore200]

Originally Posted by hrodbert696

And Rick James got it from After the Fire's hit Der Kommissar, which was an English translation of Falco's song - the first German rap song, if I remember right.

.

Really?! That's pretty awesome! I had no idea; I'm gonna have to check that out

[Hobobob]

Originally Posted by hrodbert696

The chorus of Paralyzer (Finger 11) bears a striking resemblance to the main riff (I don't know if you can really split the song in verses and choruses) of Franz Ferdinand's Take Me Out. It's not exactly the same, but close enough that both bands will sometimes perform a medley blending the songs together pretty seamlessly.

Not to mention they both have the same feel as Trampled Under Foot by Zeppelin.

[ImaStupidBaby]

crazy train - ozzy
marilyn manson's version of sweet dreams

[JTE]

Originally Posted by sandmangeck

I am pretty sure there isn't a bass line in When Dove's Cry?

Think about it, and the other two...

[electracoyote]

"I Want A New Drug" Huey Lewis and the News

"Ghostbusters" Ray Parker Jr.

A lot of these ended in civil action, and this is no exception. The rumour is, the producers of the movie Ghostbusters wanted Huey Lewis and the News to come up with a theme song for the movie, and he declined. They then approached Ray Parker and asked him for a song, "Something like 'I Want A New Drug.'"

And that's what they got. I think it was settled out of court.

[bass12]

Originally Posted by hrodbert696

And Rick James got it from After the Fire's hit Der Kommissar, which was an English translation of Falco's song - the first German rap song, if I remember right.

Unlikely, since both Falco's and After The Fire's versions of "Der Kommissar" were released in 1982 in the U.S. (Falco's single was released in December of '81 in Europe) and Rick James' Street Songs album (containing "Super Freak") was released in 1981.

[hrodbert696]

Originally Posted by bass12

Unlikely, since both Falco's and After The Fire's versions of "Der Kommissar" were released in 1982 in the U.S. (Falco's single was released in December of '81 in Europe) and Rick James' Street Songs album (containing "Super Freak") was released in 1981.

Really? I must have gotten the dates mixed up. Personally the After the Fire song was the first I heard to use it, and I don't remember hearing the Rick James Superfreak till 83 or 84. But I'm sure you're probably right. The borrowing must have gone in the other direction.

Anyway, for the guy who wanted to check it out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GmkjnL4EYw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guvo7gUdUnE

[mellowinman]

Originally Posted by JTE

Well, there's the electric bass part to Prince's "When Doves Cry" which is exactly the same as Andy Fraser's verse part on "Alright Now", and they're both the same as what Bill Wyman played on the verses of "Honky Tonk Women"...

BTW, that line is an important lesson for all musicians to learn, I think.

John

-WINNER!-

[obimark]

Werwolves and Sweet Home Alabama are not identical basslines at all. Neither is Tones on Tail Go and Ramble on, completely different bassline and song.

Now- Sweet Home and Werewolves, and Sanctuary and 15 other cult songs are exactly the same progression of D-C-G, but so are 450 other songs. This is just a very common chord progression as is E-D-A, A-D-E, A-E-D

The I IV V, and V IV I is in 1000s of songs, usually in A,D, G, C or E Keys. Mary Janes Last Dance and Dani California are two more good examples, same chord progressions on Verse but the basslines are slightly different.

[obimark]

One thing on the bass laying out completely on the verses like Doves Cry and Alright now, while it works well on the record, many times in your typical bar band gig, laying out makes things sound very empty. For instance my band all but forced me to add some root notes to the vers of Honkey Tonk when the drums come in. Just fills up the sound MUCH better in a live situation.

[hgiles]

If you're gonna rip somebody off, atleast have the tact to put it in a different key. That'd be a good excuse to tune down right there!!

[Handyman]

Originally Posted by obimark

Werwolves and Sweet Home Alabama are not identical basslines at all. Neither is Tones on Tail Go and Ramble on, completely different bassline and song.

Now- Sweet Home and Werewolves, and Sanctuary and 15 other cult songs are exactly the same progression of D-C-G, but so are 450 other songs. This is just a very common chord progression as is E-D-A, A-D-E, A-E-D

Yup. We're just hearing different bassists hammer on the root note to two songs with the same progression.

Any two boring bass lines using the same chord progression are going to sound pretty similar.

[JTE]

Originally Posted by obimark

One thing on the bass laying out completely on the verses like Doves Cry and Alright now, while it works well on the record, many times in your typical bar band gig, laying out makes things sound very empty. For instance my band all but forced me to add some root notes to the vers of Honkey Tonk when the drums come in. Just fills up the sound MUCH better in a live situation.

Yeah. On the live recording of "Honky Tonk Women" from "Get Your Ya Yas Out" Wyman plays a line through the verses. Rhonda Smith said she plays a line Prince came up with for "Doves" live too.

In fact, Keith Richards once said to ignore their studio recordings and learn Stones songs.from live versions. After the play them a while on stage they figure out how they really want it to sound.

Never confuse records or arrangements with songs!!!!!

Still the lesson to shut the heck up and let the song lead your bass part is important.

John

[agreatheight]

Bass line for B52's Love Shack is at the very least a homage to Jimi Hendrix's Fire.

[dtripoli]

Originally Posted by agreatheight

Bass line for B52's Love Shack is at the very least a homage to Jimi Hendrix's Fire.

Huh? not hearing any similarity there....
Maybe Hendrix' "Fire" and Aretha's "See-saw" those two are much closer

[jaxstarke]

The Doors "Riders On the Storm"
Bon Jovi "Livin' On A Prayer"