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Old 10-19-2010, 12:14 PM
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I was joking around with my friend the other day, and somehow the idea of a cymbal-only drumkit came up. Things like a gong instead of a bass drum, different sized hi-hats instead of toms, and so on. It was one of those things where it started out as a joke but, left unchecked, turned into a "then it could have this and that and that..." thing. So I guess my questions are thus:

A. Is it possible?
B. Is it practical?
C. Is it awesome?
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Possible.... Sure.

practical, not even close.

Awsome.... on many levels yes. Unless your trying to be practical.....


Now, Go to your local music shop, sit at an electronic drum kit. Set all pads to a cymbal according to the layout you like.

Ta Da!! cymbal kit. Now, lets see hom many songs that works for before you want a thud here and there......

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Old 10-19-2010, 12:23 PM
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Possible.... Sure.

practical, not even close.

Awsome.... on many levels yes. Unless your trying to be practical.....


Now, Go to your local music shop, sit at an electronic drum kit. Set all pads to a cymbal according to the layout you like.

Ta Da!! cymbal kit. Now, lets see hom many songs that works for before you want a thud here and there......

-eSmith.
Ta Da! I agree
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:26 PM
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I don't think that cymbals, even if you use the more varied possible sizes and thickness, cannot cover the sonic space of a regular drum kit. I would like to be proved wrong though.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:46 PM
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Maybe if I gear it more towards "metal only" and include some pots and pans would it be more useful. I definitely like the idea of using the gong with the combo of a kick pedal and some sort of mute-pedal, similar to a bike brake.

I think this thing is definitely gonna happen some day when I have lots of space and money (although a Carl Thompson is higher up on the agenda under those circumstances).
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This idea... it is a terrible idea.
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Sounds like a Gamelan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamelan
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:53 PM
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I don't think that cymbals, even if you use the more varied possible sizes and thickness, cannot cover the sonic space of a regular drum kit. I would like to be proved wrong though.
I think that such a kit would suffer more from too much coverage than too little. I don't think anyone else could get a note in edgewise. Maybe the bass player.
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:57 PM
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I thought Lars Ulrich had been doing something like that for years?
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:38 AM
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I think that such a kit would suffer more from too much coverage than too little. I don't think anyone else could get a note in edgewise. Maybe the bass player.
Really? I don't know, I have never heard midrangey cymbals. That is where I think that the main problem would be.
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GAAK!! I hate cymbals because too many drummers think they're "cymballers" instead of drummers.

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Old 10-20-2010, 10:08 AM
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I know a few drummers that play with only a kick, snare and a bunch of cymbals.

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GAAK!! I hate cymbals because too many drummers think they're "cymballers" instead of drummers.

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+1, how about no cymbals other than a Hi-Hat?
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+1, how about no cymbals other than a Hi-Hat?
I think it could work.
In the 80s incarnation of King Crimson, Bill Bruford plays almost no cymbals at all. The Beat album is a good example. There are some crash cymbals, but he is purposely playing less.
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GAAK!! I hate cymbals because too many drummers think they're "cymballers" instead of drummers.

John
Thank you. The kit he's describing would sound like Grandma dropped a drawer of silverware down the basement stairs.
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drummers are loud enough with only a few cymbols! they don't need 7-8 of them!
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you would have to have some incredibly quick-decaying cymbals for this to not sound like one big overlapping "sishhhhhhh"
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Really? I don't know, I have never heard midrangey cymbals. That is where I think that the main problem would be.
Larger cymbals put out a ton of midrange "white noise". Too much cymbalism gets in the way of just about everything else. We are always asking our drummer to cut down on the ride and crash.

A solely cymbal drum kit might be OK as a novelty solo instrument, but not much else.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:49 PM
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So, the top half of Terry Bozzio's kit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NHIcIt1Wo
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Other ideas include basses strung with just D strings. A guitar with 10 frets and a piano where the notes go lower as you go higher. Crazy, but it just might work, eh?
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