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10-19-2010, 12:14 PM
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I was joking around with my friend the other day, and somehow the idea of a cymbal-only drumkit came up. Things like a gong instead of a bass drum, different sized hi-hats instead of toms, and so on. It was one of those things where it started out as a joke but, left unchecked, turned into a "then it could have this and that and that..." thing. So I guess my questions are thus:
A. Is it possible?
B. Is it practical?
C. Is it awesome? | 
10-19-2010, 12:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada | | | Possible.... Sure.
practical, not even close.
Awsome.... on many levels yes. Unless your trying to be practical.....
Now, Go to your local music shop, sit at an electronic drum kit. Set all pads to a cymbal according to the layout you like.
Ta Da!! cymbal kit. Now, lets see hom many songs that works for before you want a thud here and there......
-eSmith. | 
10-19-2010, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by eSmith Possible.... Sure.
practical, not even close.
Awsome.... on many levels yes. Unless your trying to be practical.....
Now, Go to your local music shop, sit at an electronic drum kit. Set all pads to a cymbal according to the layout you like.
Ta Da!! cymbal kit. Now, lets see hom many songs that works for before you want a thud here and there......
-eSmith. | Ta Da! I agree | 
10-19-2010, 12:26 PM
| | | | I don't think that cymbals, even if you use the more varied possible sizes and thickness, cannot cover the sonic space of a regular drum kit. I would like to be proved wrong though. | 
10-19-2010, 12:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: Philadelphia | | | Maybe if I gear it more towards "metal only" and include some pots and pans would it be more useful. I definitely like the idea of using the gong with the combo of a kick pedal and some sort of mute-pedal, similar to a bike brake.
I think this thing is definitely gonna happen some day when I have lots of space and money (although a Carl Thompson is higher up on the agenda under those circumstances). | 
10-19-2010, 12:46 PM
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10-19-2010, 12:48 PM
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10-19-2010, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GianGian I don't think that cymbals, even if you use the more varied possible sizes and thickness, cannot cover the sonic space of a regular drum kit. I would like to be proved wrong though. | I think that such a kit would suffer more from too much coverage than too little. I don't think anyone else could get a note in edgewise. Maybe the bass player. | 
10-19-2010, 05:57 PM
| | | | I thought Lars Ulrich had been doing something like that for years? | 
10-20-2010, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ggunn I think that such a kit would suffer more from too much coverage than too little. I don't think anyone else could get a note in edgewise. Maybe the bass player. | Really? I don't know, I have never heard midrangey cymbals. That is where I think that the main problem would be. | 
10-20-2010, 08:53 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | | GAAK!! I hate cymbals because too many drummers think they're "cymballers" instead of drummers.
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10-20-2010, 10:08 AM
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10-20-2010, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JTE GAAK!! I hate cymbals because too many drummers think they're "cymballers" instead of drummers.
John | +1, how about no cymbals other than a Hi-Hat?
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10-20-2010, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chokeslam512 +1, how about no cymbals other than a Hi-Hat? | I think it could work.
In the 80s incarnation of King Crimson, Bill Bruford plays almost no cymbals at all. The Beat album is a good example. There are some crash cymbals, but he is purposely playing less. | 
10-20-2010, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JTE GAAK!! I hate cymbals because too many drummers think they're "cymballers" instead of drummers.
John | Thank you. The kit he's describing would sound like Grandma dropped a drawer of silverware down the basement stairs. 
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10-20-2010, 02:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tifton,Georgia | | | drummers are loud enough with only a few cymbols! they don't need 7-8 of them!
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10-21-2010, 05:13 PM
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10-21-2010, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GianGian Really? I don't know, I have never heard midrangey cymbals. That is where I think that the main problem would be. | Larger cymbals put out a ton of midrange "white noise". Too much cymbalism gets in the way of just about everything else. We are always asking our drummer to cut down on the ride and crash.
A solely cymbal drum kit might be OK as a novelty solo instrument, but not much else. | 
10-21-2010, 09:49 PM
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10-21-2010, 09:57 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Manhattan | | | Other ideas include basses strung with just D strings. A guitar with 10 frets and a piano where the notes go lower as you go higher. Crazy, but it just might work, eh? | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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