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12-10-2010, 11:20 AM
| | | | The difference between Post and Prog rock
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I'm trying to fully appreciate the difference between the two genres, as I thoroughly enjoy both, and find that IMO the lines can become very blurred between the two. Both push the compositional boundaries of rock and usually stray away from the "typical" song structure. The only differences I can really garner are that their peaks occurred at different times and post rock might have a larger instrumental percentage in their ranks.
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12-10-2010, 11:22 AM
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12-10-2010, 11:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Norway | | | Their different at their very core, post-rock is minimalist whilst prog is inherently maximalist.
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12-10-2010, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Elrend  Their different at their very core, post-rock is minimalist whilst prog is inherently maximalist. | Basically, that's it right there. They both take use of long compositions and that's around where the similarities end. Post-rock is all about saying as much as possible with as little as possible. It isn't really a genre that's heavy on musicianship, it's more about the final composition than how you get there. However, that's why I think post-rock/metal can actually be more complex than prog-rock/metal. There are some incredible arrangements that you can find in a Godspeed You! Black Emperor or Neurosis song. Don't get me wrong, I like prog rock too, I just prefer post-rock. |
12-10-2010, 11:43 AM
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12-10-2010, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by iri5hpunk21 | That's math rock, but it does have more of a minimalist aesthetic.
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12-10-2010, 11:52 AM
|  | A figment of our exaggeration | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Way Out West | | | If you're talking Prog & Post Prog, the way I look at it is that "Prog" originated in the late '60's and became fully realized in the '70's with groups like Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, ELP, King Crimson and the like. The rise of Punk & New Wave in the late '70's caused Prog to dwindle in popularity although never completely died out. Bands such as Rush kept it going.
"Post" means (to my mind anyway) that which comes later. Groups like Dream Theater, Coheed & Cambria, Porcupine Tree ect, exemplifies Prog that came in its 2nd wave of popularity. Just my 2 cents... |
12-10-2010, 12:09 PM
|  | Expendable | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana | | | When I think Prog, I think Dream Theater
When I think Post, I think Neurosis |
12-10-2010, 12:38 PM
| | | | When does post-indie happen??
So sick of it...
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12-10-2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iri5hpunk21 | I would consider it listenable. But unwatchable (those guys bounce around enough to make me dizzy...  )
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12-10-2010, 02:09 PM
|  | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | | Progressive pushes the boundaries and limits of musical chops and song structure as much as they can. Post rock musicians draw them back and keep the musical limits and boundaries at more of a minimum. Both are fine musicians and many are quite good at their craft. |
12-10-2010, 02:52 PM
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12-10-2010, 03:35 PM
| | | | I see. So I guess the main difference is while both push the envelopes of rock based music, prog rock tends to be more chop based and technical, whereas post rock would be more minimalist...that makes sense enough i suppose |
12-10-2010, 03:44 PM
| | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodhammer Your avatar instantly got "Honey Bucket" stuck in my head. | That's a good thing!  Quote:
Originally Posted by iri5hpunk21 I see. So I guess the main difference is while both push the envelopes of rock based music, prog rock tends to be more chop based and technical, whereas post rock would be more minimalist...that makes sense enough i suppose | Spot on. Some post rock can have progressive elements in it and vise versa as well. |
12-10-2010, 04:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Eastern Wisconsin | | Prog rock is about writing really good, but really long songs, with a lot of different sections that sound different but all fit together, with complex instrument parts.
Post rock is playing the same chord progression over and over again with arpeggiated guitar on top passing for melody, and the same drum beat on every song. Hope I don't offend anyone, this is rather tongue-in-cheek.
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12-10-2010, 04:21 PM
| | | | In a nutshell:
Rush (Long songs, crazy playing, not very commercially accepted, etc.) = Prog Rock
The Police (Shorter songs, scaled back a bit, simpler, more universally liked, but still very unique, distinct, and still extremely good musicians) = Post Prog Rock.
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12-10-2010, 04:30 PM
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12-10-2010, 04:33 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Princeton New Jersey | | Serious question here, not trying to be sarcastic. Why do you care?
I'm 50 years old. When I was a boy there were two kinds of pop music. Two charts. Rock and Soul. Occasionally stuff crossed over.
Now it seems like every pigeon-holed genre has at most ten bands... I only listen to ProtoPostGrindCore.
I like the music I like. I don't really care for the music I don't like. 
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12-10-2010, 04:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati area | | | Genres make me want to punch things. It either rocks or it doesn't. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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