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Old 12-06-2006, 11:11 PM
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Do you think Rock died in the 90s?

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I've been listening to a lot of STP lately and I think they are so great. The are my favorite band to come out of the 90's and they are perhaps my favorite band of all time. (Honorable mentions go to RHCP, Metallica, Apocalyptica, John Frusciante)

Thinking about them made me think of other groups that I think made it big in the 90's such as Soundgarden, Blind Melon, Soul Asylum, Temple of the Dog,
Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Smashing Pumkins, Green Day, Sublime.
So much great rock. (Focusing more on Rock/Hard Rock/Grunge because covering all styles would be too exhausting)

Thinking of those groups and being unimpressed by much of the rock played on the radio today; such as 30 Seconds to Mars, Hinder, Snow Patrol, Fallout Boy, made me wonder of Rock (As mentioned in previous parenthesis) died in the 90's.

So, here are some questions.

1. What were your favorite bands that came out of the 90's? (Or started in the 80's but really got popular in the 90's such as RHCP, Guns'n'Roses, Metallica)

2. Why did they appeal to you?

3. Assuming that they disbanded, as many have, do you think they would have the same level of quality, innovation and popularity that they did in the 90's?

4. Do you think Rock died in the 90's or are there groups I'm missing?
( I must give notice to Army of Anyone and even to Avenged Sevenfold)

Now, you can talk about metal, death metal, black metal, jazz, punk, whatever, but my main interest is more of what I described before in parenthesis. (Again, Rock/Hard Rock/Grunge)
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:20 PM
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Well Grunge, like Thrash Metal and Hair Metal, were just fads. Rock and Metal are still around, but the craze isn't just for one genre. Velvet Revolver is somewhat decent. Audioslave. That's all I can think of. Rock isn't really my genre. I think that we've been through all the genres that will ever get popular and we're waiting for a new direction now or else we'll just have a mixture of different genres in equilibrium with each other.
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I'm a huge Alice in Chains fan, a band you didn't mention. I'm not sure rock is dead...maybe grunge, but I sure wish there were bands out there that were comparable to AIC for me to listen to.

I'm more of a metal guy, though, so I don't know.
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Even if it is 'dead' in mainstream music out there, there are so many local bands putting out great rock. There are also bands putting out utter crap-rock, but nonetheless! I am very happy to see tons of local bands making great music, be it classic rock, rock, metal, etc.

Rock is alive.
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Not as long as Mars Volta and Tool are still around.


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Old 12-06-2006, 11:41 PM
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Dang, I forgot Alice in Chains. I really like that band. Live too.
So many good bands.
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Grunge is dead because grunge people kept offing themselves. You can't have music if there's nobody to play it. =/
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:52 PM
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Loved the style of it though. Heavy music, good rhythms, people having deep voices and still singing their lines.
With a few exceptions, it down sound right to me to have hard, heavy music and high/boyish voices.
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Grunge is dead because grunge people kept offing themselves. You can't have music if there's nobody to play it. =/
This is the first thing that I agree with you on...
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:56 PM
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It's hard to say.
Every now and then I hear a really good band but they either fade out of success and or bad producers bugger up their following CDs; SOAD for instance. You also have to remember that it was in the 90s the whole metal is dead long live grunge, grunge is dead, long live alliterative rock, alternative rock is dead long live Cal punk, Cal punk is dead industrial, industrial is dead long live nu-metal, nu-metal is dead long live stoner rock, stoner rock is dead long live hardcore crap started; when it was really all part of one big picture, loud rock. It won't go away as long as there are bands playing it somewhere, even if the massmarketmedia is ignoring it or even trying to stop it out.


90s bands?
TAD, GRINDY POUNDING beer induced HEAVYNESS!
Ministry, "So what" is one of the reasons I started playing bass.
Sepultura, Listen to Arise and Chaos AD.
Soundgarden
The MELVINS
White Zombie, I don't really like Rob's solo stuff, it's missing something.....
Rollin's Band
Napalm Death
Crowbar
Pantera
L7
Primus
Gas huffer
Bikini Kill
Seven Year Bitch
Fu Manchu
Kyuss
NIN
The Offspring
Pennywise
Skinny Puppy
Alice in Chains
There is a bunch I’m forgetting too..........
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Thanks for ticking off the bands...gonna have to listen to some of them.
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I much prefer mainstream rock from the 60s and 70s to that of later years, but there has been a ton of good music in the past 20 years that you might not have heard. Amazing local bands, underground bands, and some we have yet to hear. Everyone complains that music nowadays has no soul, no emotion, no heart. In the end I think rock has evolved a lot. It's not that the music back then was better, but those people just like it better. I think when you open up to modern styles of rock, you'll find that they'll make you feel a different way than classic rock or blues does.

As for the original question, grunge was very much early 90s, but hard rock has been around and will always be around. Not a lot of straightforward grunge/hard rock bands exist in the mainstream nowadays. Most of them in the late 90s were "nu-metal", and now it seems bands with more indie or hardcore influences are filling in that gap. It's just evolution.
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Do you think Rock died in the 90s?
Nah, 70's. Eighties at the very latest.
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Thinking of those groups and being unimpressed by much of the rock played on the radio today; such as 30 Seconds to Mars, Hinder, Snow Patrol, Fallout Boy, made me wonder of Rock (As mentioned in previous parenthesis) died in the 90's.
The music you mentioned is not representative of the music that was played on the radio in the early 90s. It's just the stuff that survived. People were looking back fondly on the 60s and 70s, thinking that the 90s were rubbish.

People, twenty years from now, will look back fondly on the rock music of the '00s, conveniently forgetting the dross that we actually have to endure.
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i think there is still a lot of great rock out here, the difference between now and the 90's is that stuff has to be searched for now. i liek the current uprise of talkign heads and bowie influenced bands-the arcade fire is my fav example of this. but as far as straight up rocking, Dredg is an amazing band out of cali. they put on a sick live show too. i think the new project with the stp band and the singer form filter will be cool too, i saw them on letterman and they rocked. the last band i would say still can rock and be good is audioslave, im nto a huge fan, mostly due to my denial of the rage against the machine breakup, but they can rock.
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:08 AM
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Rock is so "Last Century"!!!
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My dad and I were talking last night and came to this conclusion

There is not one band that is currently making cd's and is not a novetly act that would sell out a 10,000 seat arena.

Sure you have your acdc, who, etc, but making hits right now and selling out arenea, not in rock. Its a shame but then again I save money going to concerts of local bands for a lot less.
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Interesting. I just mentioned this in another post.

I think there was this sliver of music that came after all the L.A. hair and before Seattle from about 89-91. I have nick named it "Lollapalooza Metal" (probabably Hard Rock would be more accurate, but meh). Bands like:

Jane's Addiction
Living Colour
Fishbone
Primus
RHCP
Faith No More
Rollins Band
early Soundgarden
early Smashing Pumpkins
Helmet
Prong

These were my favorite bands, because they rejected the L.A. "sleaze and glam" AND they could really play. There were some things from the "grunge" era that I liked, but I was listening more to King Crimson and Miles Davis by that point.

As for the original question: Rock is dead, and there are an awful lot of necrophiles running around out there.
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