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Old 03-03-2011, 03:57 PM
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Hi everyone, sorry for bringing this subject on, but I thought this is an amazing thing, and i donīt mean "amazing" in a good way. I was looking for some information and stumbled onto this:

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-24...ce+high+quali/

I thought this was a common knock off, but was amazed to see that they even strap the Gibson logo on the headstock!! Is there something the chinese copycats wonīt do?? Obviously this is a wholesaler price, but even so, what would be the final price on these? $800 to have a good markup, or even $2000 for unsuspecting buyers?

I brought this theme since I have purchased a new Spirit bass (XT2DB) and a GT Pro Guitar, and I am very happy since I had a couple of Musicyo era basses that I had to sell, and had an "urge" to replace them before they are "extinct". At least the Spirits are a very good line and at least are an "official" or allowed version.

Just seeing those images on the link make me feel angry, damn copycats...makes me respect Ned Steinberger more for having to put up with this kind of ****, at the beginnings of his company, without having such big pockets to fight such as Gibson would have.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:59 PM
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Hi everyone, sorry for bringing this subject on, but I thought this is an amazing thing, and i donīt mean "amazing" in a good way. I was looking for some information and stumbled onto this:

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-24...ce+high+quali/

I thought this was a common knock off, but was amazed to see that they even strap the Gibson logo on the headstock!! Is there something the chinese copycats wonīt do?? Obviously this is a wholesaler price, but even so, what would be the final price on these? $800 to have a good markup, or even $2000 for unsuspecting buyers?

I brought this theme since I have purchased a new Spirit bass (XT2DB) and a GT Pro Guitar, and I am very happy since I had a couple of Musicyo era basses that I had to sell, and had an "urge" to replace them before they are "extinct". At least the Spirits are a very good line and at least are an "official" or allowed version.

Just seeing those images on the link make me feel angry, damn copycats...makes me respect Ned Steinberger more for having to put up with this kind of ****, at the beginnings of his company, without having such big pockets to fight such as Gibson would have.
This is old news man,this is has been going on for quite sometime, some of these copies are so good gibsons own employees cannot tell a difference.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:06 PM
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This is old news man,this is has been going on for quite sometime, some of these copies are so good gibsons own employees cannot tell a difference.
I wonder if they're Pleked.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:25 PM
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Well, if Gibson isnīt your taste...

they have Gretsch too...
http://www.tootoomart.com/product-46...uitar+L-1-351/

Love the high quality studio picture where you can see the guy taking the picture...

They have it all...Gibsons, Epiphones with "original" carton boxes, Fenders, BC Rich...

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-25...ectric+guitar/

...and they offer ANY style you like, LOL.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:41 PM
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Wow... So much for copyright law...

A fine reason to REALLY be suspicious of any mass-produced instrument...
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:49 PM
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:55 PM
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They're going to own this country in 50 years.
Unless their people rise up like we're seeing in the mid east...
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:01 PM
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http://www.tootoomart.com/product-45...ping+A:E01137/

Marcus Miller style with a Gibson case?
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:08 PM
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I kinda want to get one too see if they're any good...
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:26 PM
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Marcus Miller Jazz in a Gibson case.

Whatīs the problem Mediumhero? That means that finally Fender and Gibson are collaborating to give us multinatured products, LOL...seriously, this is like when someone starts stealing stuff, and gradually loses all shame about doing it...anyway, maybe this collaboration between Gibson and Fender, as we see in China will probably have great possibilities...Fender SG, Gibson Jazz Bass, Squier Jack Cassady, Epiphone Precision...the sky is the limit...and the chinese plant capacity...
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:34 PM
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Whatīs the problem Mediumhero? That means that finally Fender and Gibson are collaborating to give us multinatured products, LOL...seriously, this is like when someone starts stealing stuff, and gradually loses all shame about doing it...anyway, maybe this collaboration between Gibson and Fender, as we see in China will probably have great possibilities...Fender SG, Gibson Jazz Bass, Squier Jack Cassady, Epiphone Precision...the sky is the limit...and the chinese plant capacity...
LOL
Maybe we'll see a Gibson Katana sometime soon then?
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:41 PM
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Want some exotic high end brands?

Charvel anyone? It is a new one, but anyway it is "near mint"...
http://www.tootoomart.com/product-27...tar+Near+Mint/

An Ibanez JEM7V "Steve Vai"? Come on people...just 278 bucks (wholesale)

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-16...ectric+Guitar/

Telecaster Thinline...

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-45...r++++ZYSX:350/

Even a Les Paul robot...
http://www.tootoomart.com/product-45...ing+A:E014131/

I wonder why they didnīt place a brand on this one...kind of reminds me of some bass I think I know...

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-41...ase,EB-4614HB/

Fender telecaster necks, precision bass necks...I wonder if those damn D Addario strings pictured everywhere are real...hell, I even doubt if even those "Chinese traditional folk instruments" they also sell are even real...
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:46 PM
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Charvel anyone? It is a new one, but anyway it is "near mint"...
http://www.tootoomart.com/product-27...tar+Near+Mint/

An Ibanez JEM7V "Steve Vai"? Come on people...just 278 bucks (wholesale)

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-16...ectric+Guitar/

Telecaster Thinline...

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-45...r++++ZYSX:350/

Even a Les Paul robot...
http://www.tootoomart.com/product-45...ing+A:E014131/

I wonder why they didnīt place a brand on this one...kind of reminds me of some bass I think I know...

http://www.tootoomart.com/product-41...ase,EB-4614HB/

Fender telecaster necks, precision bass necks...I wonder if those damn D Addario strings pictured everywhere are real...hell, I even doubt if even those "Chinese traditional folk instruments" they also sell are even real...
If the strings arent real you can send them to d addario and they will replace them with real ones if they arent.
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:48 PM
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Wow... So much for copyright law...

A fine reason to REALLY be suspicious of any mass-produced instrument...
This is exactly why it's a blessing to have the guy who built your guitar living a few miles down the road.
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:58 PM
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I've heard of a vendor, whom a certain guitar manufacturer outsources to, who takes the schematics & builds knock offs without the brand name. Exact same instrument without the logo, at half the cost.
But this? This is bad.
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Twelve String Rickenbacker anyone? http://www.tootoomart.com/product-27...l+instruments/
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Good luck if you ever try to unload one. Even if you announce it as a fake, the "craigslist cops" seem to poo poo on your too too. I think I'd just buy a rondo copy in case i ever wanted to be able to sell the guitar or bass.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:06 PM
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For as little as they cost, you could buy one, replace the electronics (and if you're so inclined, the neck too) and ti will STILL be cheaper than buying the real thing.
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50 years? Look around you. They already own us.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:09 PM
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I don't know what's going on here...http://www.tootoomart.com/product-23...+bass+Guitar+/
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