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10-04-2007, 11:51 AM
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This is in many senses a philosphical or existensial question. Do you think any particular career like a money orientated ceo, engineer, or any other position that is based more on conrete thought, and also political beliefs that may be more rigid hinder the ability to play music and a high level from the perspective of creativity and pure groove, the humanistic aspects of art be influence by those that fall into those jobs or political beliefs ? I am curious on the feedback. What hinders pure creativity, feel, and pure human freedom ? Besides woman ! |
10-04-2007, 12:07 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati | | | Interesting sort of 'chicken and egg' question. Does working in a job that has a lot of restrictions hinder your creativity? Or do people who are less creative gravitate towards careers that require rigid thinking?
I think it more depends on how you solve problems and how calm you can be around disorder. If you are kind of person who needs order, you'll look for answers. Once an answer is found to a problem it becomes harder to consider different points of view and alternative answers (and that's where creative thought lives).
Another aspect of creative thought is the ability to find commonality between two things (or thoughts) that most people would see as very dissimilar. Any kind of job or life environment that eliminates options will cut down on creativity.
On the other hand... my personal musicial hero, Charles E. Ives worked his entire life in life insurance and still managed to be one of the most original musical minds of the 20th century.
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10-04-2007, 11:56 PM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | I suspect the kind of mind that has an aptitude for things like engineering may be somewhat restricted on the artistically creative side. Engineering leans toward left hemisphere thought. There is still plenty of creativity, but its nature is more mechanical. Those with an aptitude for the fine arts, music included, tend to be more right-brained in their thinking. Their creativity is less affected by the restrictions imposed by the left brain.
I am strongly left-brained, and do not feel that I am particularly creative when it comes to music. I've written a few songs, and they all sound like a technical report. On the other hand, I'm pretty good at problem solving in many areas. I wish my right brain would participate a little more in the process. And no, pot isn't the answer for me.
So I don't think one's career or political views affect the ability to make music, rather, specific mental characteristics are the commonality that links the dispositions to lean one way or the other in all of those aspects.
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10-05-2007, 06:12 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York City | | | *sigh* I work in the numbers biz. I work with all sorts of professionals. In the numbers biz, you find a huge number of musicians, not so many other artists, but lots of players. Classical players, jazz players, rock players. The aptitude I had for numbers translated directly to aptitude with music and music theory. There are a lot of people like this.
The analysis of scores in college, such things as the sonata form, were invaluable in my job now, dealing with complex international reinsurance transactions.
What hinders pure creativity is the need to feed yourself, or your family.....
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10-05-2007, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ThomasG  This is in many senses a philosphical or existensial question. Do you think any particular career like a money orientated ceo, engineer, or any other position that is based more on conrete thought, and also political beliefs that may be more rigid hinder the ability to play music and a high level from the perspective of creativity and pure groove, the humanistic aspects of art be influence by those that fall into those jobs or political beliefs ? I am curious on the feedback. What hinders pure creativity, feel, and pure human freedom ? Besides woman ! | creativity can only be hindered if you let it. IMO |
10-05-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tkozal *sigh* I work in the numbers biz. I work with all sorts of professionals. In the numbers biz, you find a huge number of musicians, not so many other artists, but lots of players. Classical players, jazz players, rock players. The aptitude I had for numbers translated directly to aptitude with music and music theory. There are a lot of people like this.
The analysis of scores in college, such things as the sonata form, were invaluable in my job now, dealing with complex international reinsurance transactions.
What hinders pure creativity is the need to feed yourself, or your family..... | Quoted for truth. Engineering *is* a creative endeavor. You are solving problems, and that requires creative though.
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10-05-2007, 11:23 AM
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No. One has nothing to do with the other. There are enormous amounts of creativity in every field, and let's not get into creativity in politics, shall we?
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10-05-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jerome_oneil Quoted for truth. Engineering *is* a creative endeavor. You are solving problems, and that requires creative though. | You are correct, of course, especially for geotechnical engineers. However, I maintain that the type of creativity I use to solve complex technical problems is not the same type of creativity that one would use to feel music or to get in the groove. As a metaphor, I am an excellent draftsman, but I can't draw human figures for squat.
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10-05-2007, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga You are correct, of course, especially for geotechnical engineers. However, I maintain that the type of creativity I use to solve complex technical problems is not the same type of creativity that one would use to feel music or to get in the groove. As a metaphor, I am an excellent draftsman, but I can't draw human figures for squat. | I've always viewed playing an instrument as a technical exercise first, and an artistic endeavor second. It matters not a whit what kind of muse you have going on, or how much passion and artistry you have pent up inside you if you can not manipulate the fretboard in a predictable manner.
In that regard, the tools that I use to solve complex technical problems, while not identical, are at least from the same family.
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