Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Miscellaneous [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Miscellaneous [BG] Music-related discussion, not specific to the bass or any other forum


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 10-17-2007, 10:17 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Does TB have a forum based Scholarship?

Sign in to disble this ad
****NEVERMIND****


It seems that music is not supported as much as some of us would like. I propose that we form some sort of scholarship where we donate basses, amps, cabs, straps strings etc to a worthy candidate. I am not considering money as an option at this time however I have proposed an idea below.

Right now I have an Avatar 212 cab that I am not using. I am thinking of giving it to someone in NEED of it, and would like an avenue for doing so.

Please discuss the following topics and add any you see fitting. These are just proposals, and my ideas. Nothing is set in stone.

Age of participant:
Does it matter? Should we only help young people? The only other case I can think of is someone who has recently been through a natural disaster and has lost their gear. Otherwise I believe it is up to an adult to help themselves. Also I feel a greater effect can be had in strengthening the presence of music in our culture by aiding children.

Grades(for those that apply):
I believe grades in school should be irrelevant, however a strong desire to learn music would be needed and some proof of it would be needed before a scholarship would be awarded.

Race, religion, bedroom habits etc..:
Should not be a factor in this scholarship. This is intended to unite people. The above mentioned categories are often used to separate people from one another in a hierarchical fashion. The ideas of good and bad should only apply in the realm of "growth of musical community and musical knowledge."

Financial status:
Really rough patch here. I don't want anyone doing backgrounds checks on anyone else. But I don't want people taking advantage of generosity when they don't need it. We will have to take someones word for it and have another TB member be able to check it out on an obvious level. Meeting with the applicant, jamming with them, seeing where they live and what equipment they already own.

Requirements:
I am thinking a ~2 page typed response on why they believe they deserve the item for scholarship. background, year playing, goals, dreams etc. Genera will not be a factor nor will location. 2 musical references. The applicant should be trying to get out and meet people and play whenever possible. The idea is to help people who are promoting music with their action not just playing in their bedroom. However, Gigging experience is not a must. Just the desire to get out and know other musicians.

Shipping: Award winner will need to front the money for shipping unless extreme circumstances such as a natural disaster are in effect in the situation. Also, items would ship from the person making the donation. That way there is no central person with any chance of buggering up the works.

Partial payment into a scholarship fund(Not something I think is currently feasible but I will post it anyway): If money is to get involved here is the only useful way I see it going. Some Scholarship winners will be asked to pay a portion for the piece, very reduced cost. This money will be put into an account (run by some member of TB that we has an impeccable track record and is monetarily stable. Not by me.) and once that account reached enough uses the interest to start giving monetary scholarships to support the growth of music in a community. This money would not be used for gear. It would be used to promote new schools, venues to play, and/or other avenues to give children a safe place to play and socialize with music as a binding interest.

Other options for funding would be to auction items instead of giving them away and take the proceeds and place them into the account.

Award time periods:
Since things might come up for this at random when will things be awarded? I don't know how generous people will be or how often so to presume there will be something to give ever 3 months is ignorant at this point. However holding on to gear for a year that you are not using is almost impossible to do Should it just be an as it comes along basis? I have found that things without a schedule do not work very well.

Application review board:
I propose the board is made up of a few forum members.
I would think that 5 would be a good number. Each board member would review the applicants on a set of ideals. Say there are 7 applicants. Each will be rated 1(First pick)-7(last pick) by each judge. The applicant with the least points wins the scholarship.

Items donated allocation:
Do we put together whole rigs? Or does the applicant let the board know what they are in need of...I.E. Everything, an amp, a bass, a cab, strings, small items, tuner, books, lessons, or staff paper.

Thanks for your time guys, I hope we can help some people out and influence the state of musical education instead of leaving in the hands of the powers that be. I hear people complain about the arts being lost in schools. Lets put our gear where our mouth is.


Jonathan
__________________
Band = johnwaynehasrisen.com

Last edited by JonathanD : 10-17-2007 at 12:51 PM.
  #2  
Old 10-17-2007, 11:40 AM
markjazzbassist's Avatar
prefers electric miles davis
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Supporting Member
i think this would be an EXcellent idea. Unfortunately when the guys started the Musicians Helping Musicians Fund, that got removed from here. SO I'm guessing it's not gonna work.
__________________
My Website

My Band
  #3  
Old 10-17-2007, 11:42 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
It got removed from TB? Just making sure I am clear on that. Was there any reason given for it?
Jonathan
__________________
Band = johnwaynehasrisen.com
  #4  
Old 10-17-2007, 11:52 AM
markjazzbassist's Avatar
prefers electric miles davis
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonathanD View Post
It got removed from TB? Just making sure I am clear on that. Was there any reason given for it?
Jonathan
i think Paul didn't know if it was legit or not. They had an attorney and finalized everything, but it was removed from the forum.
__________________
My Website

My Band
  #5  
Old 10-17-2007, 12:06 PM
Passinwind's Avatar
I Know Nothing
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Columbia River Gorge, WA.
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonathanD View Post
It got removed from TB? Just making sure I am clear on that. Was there any reason given for it?
Start here.

It gets fairly ugly.

Last edited by Passinwind : 10-17-2007 at 12:09 PM.
  #6  
Old 10-17-2007, 12:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Oregon
Supporting Member
What if TB had a 'month (or so?) of giving' (tax refund season?) during which TBers are encouraged to donate time, money, or gear to nearby schools, youth centers, etc in a way related to music.

Examples:
Gave $50 to the high schoolers raising money for their Disneyland Trip
Gave $20 at last night's middle-school orchestra concert
Donated $30 at the youth symphony performance in the park
Gave old Peavy 4-string to nearby Boys & Girls club
Discounted lesson for private instruction
Pro Bono performance at elementary school
Gave spare Crate combo to Goodwill
Paid $20 for the Choir's carwash fund drive for new robes
Paid a student's upright bass rental for the month

Speaking one-on-one with schools band, orchestra, or choir directors would generate many more ideas.

When a TBer gives, she could maybe sign a stickied post, either saying she gave or elaborating on how she gave. Then Paul could pick one or two of the givers at the end of the period and grant 1 year Gold supporting membership (for example).

Edit: just saw Passinwind's link and reading it now.
  #7  
Old 10-17-2007, 12:52 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Well, that makes since. I fully understand that stance.

Too bad things are as they are.

Jonathan
__________________
Band = johnwaynehasrisen.com
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:13 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.