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Old 08-30-2010, 04:38 AM
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Hi,

I have an MB 4410 Combo which weighs 50kgs and a peavey 210 which weighs ~37kgs. I need something to help me get these up the stairs of the local venues. To this end I'm looking to buy a dolly/trolley.

I've had a look around but theres a couple of problems
1. The 6 wheel stair climbing models don't seem to fold up
2. The holding lips don't look long enough to go all the way down the bottom of the amp.
3. I have wheels on the bottom of my amp which lift it off the ground by about half a foot, how do I get it secured to the dolly (other than loading it on its side).

This would be an ideal one except for the ground clearance and the fact it doesn't fold up.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUSTIN-WHITE-I...#ht_570wt_1072

Does anyone have experience with this? the stair wheels are a must though, some of the venues in this city have 3+ flights of stairs ><. Something that costs less than £60 would be good.
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:18 AM
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Hi,

I have an MB 4410 Combo which weighs 50kgs and a peavey 210 which weighs ~37kgs. I need something to help me get these up the stairs of the local venues. To this end I'm looking to buy a dolly/trolley.

I've had a look around but theres a couple of problems
1. The 6 wheel stair climbing models don't seem to fold up
2. The holding lips don't look long enough to go all the way down the bottom of the amp.
3. I have wheels on the bottom of my amp which lift it off the ground by about half a foot, how do I get it secured to the dolly (other than loading it on its side).

This would be an ideal one except for the ground clearance and the fact it doesn't fold up.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUSTIN-WHITE-I...#ht_570wt_1072

Does anyone have experience with this? the stair wheels are a must though, some of the venues in this city have 3+ flights of stairs ><. Something that costs less than £60 would be good.
A lot of people swear by the RockNroller cart.

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It has slides for stairs rather than some kind of rollers but everyone seems to love it.
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:20 AM
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Ah these look very versatile though from the website I'm not sure I understand the measurements and my size requirements...

My biggest cab is 630 x 720 x 410 mm which in inches would be:
24" by 28" by 16"

The sizes of the R2 and R6 are
Length (compacted) 26" 28"
Length (Extended) 39" 42.5"
Width (frame bed) 11" 12.5"
Width (rear wheels) 14" 18"
Height (folded) 6.5" 9.5" 9.5"
Height (unfolded) 30.75" 33.25"

Which sounds like even the micro (R2) would accommodate it but it doesn't say which of the "transformations" the measurements are taken in or whether its a mixture. Any idea what size would be best for portability yet still able to move a 4x10?
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:57 AM
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:51 PM
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I highly recommend alluminum for two and four wheeled carts. The reduced weight makes them much easier to manipulate.

For stairs....the bigger wheels with tires that fill up with air work best. The hard wheel version would be fine, if, the wheels are big enough not to get cought up inbetween the steps. But, for most applications...a standard wheel with a tubeless tire works best.

Also, ...figuring out a way to put a tie-down rope on your dolley is very handy.

Magliner makes the best hand trucks I have found. They are also completely modifiable with bigger noses and taller handles.

http://www.magliner.com/index.php?pa...hk=1&Itemid=30
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:06 AM
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Hmn I talked to the guy at Pro Audio Stash, a Rock N Roller vendor. He said that if I wanted it for moving stuff up and down stairs I'd need the R12 all terrain model (which has pneumatic wheels) which is £141.

Is this really necessary for my 4x10 combo? or could I get away with one of the cheaper models R2(£49) or R6(£79). That's more my price range and the R6 has pneumatic wheels on the back.

I'm guessing its not aluminium though since the thing weighs 11kgs!
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:54 AM
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Hmn I talked to the guy at Pro Audio Stash, a Rock N Roller vendor. He said that if I wanted it for moving stuff up and down stairs I'd need the R12 all terrain model (which has pneumatic wheels) which is £141.

Is this really necessary for my 4x10 combo? or could I get away with one of the cheaper models R2(£49) or R6(£79). That's more my price range and the R6 has pneumatic wheels on the back.

I'm guessing its not aluminium though since the thing weighs 11kgs!
you only have to buy it once,if you get the right one for the job...and your rig may get bigger.....also figure that you may use it for other things.....having said that 141 pounds does seem pricey for anything but the heavy duty furniture dollies the movers use
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:12 AM
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I have one of these for shlepping gear, tools and A/V supplies. I think it cost me around $80.00 (USD), and is rated for 300lbs.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:20 AM
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What about those commercial dolleys which have the frame rails with "tank track" treads instead of skid rails on the backside for allowing a loaded dolley to navigate stairs, tailgates and other non-horizontal surfaces???

They look a lot like what "MD" posted, but for the tank track feature.
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:20 PM
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http://www.homedepot.com/Storage-Org...atalogId=10053


That's what I use. It's light, rated for 600lbs, and reasonably priced. It doesn't fold up. I just throw it across the back seat in front of the 410. I use bungee straps to tie it down. I had seen so many scary reviews of the "musician" ones falling apart (if it folds, it has more areas to develope weakness and fail) that I just went to a home improvement store and got one there. Depending on the space you have/need during transport, this may be an option you should consider.
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