One of the sales people, at one of those places you mentioned, told me to call back if I don't like what I hear.

She of course gave me the deal I was looking for, but said that it all depends on the person you get on the phone. They are allowed on most products to go down to a number they have right in front of them on the screen. Usually a lot less than the advertised price. Some will, some won't, it all depends on who you're talking to. Pretty sure it's a comission thing. There are also prices they're locked into, usually on new products. She said that it sometimes is a no go regardless of who you get.