Dos covering a room in egg cartons really sound proof a room?

Vacume · #1 08-11-2009, 05:28 PM

dos it?

HUnt49 · #2 08-11-2009, 05:46 PM

C:\it depends on if it's real acoustic treatment, or a camping pad\

rcarraher · #3 08-11-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vacume

dos it?

No, but it gives you plenty of omlet material and saves the garbageman/recycle guy the trouble of hauling it away

Kipaste · #4 08-11-2009, 05:50 PM

Well I'd figure it to be better than having just an empty room when it comes to killing echo, but I don't believe it's a great solution. I've had reasonable results with plates made of insulation wool wrapped in fabric in the home studio situation. But since I discovered these I tore the home made soundproofing down. I use it as pictured with mic and place it in front of a bass cabinet when I wan't to mic the cab. I do however have a carpet nailed to the opposite wall from the screen.

But if you're talking about a band rehearsal place then I'd go with the insulation wool. You can get leftovers from people building/ fixing their houses for very little money and scavenge flea markets recycling centers for fabric. It won't look that pretty but if the other option is egg cartons I think it won't be disastrous. And you don't even have to get a heart attack from all those eggs.

rob2966 · #5 08-11-2009, 05:54 PM

Egg cartons don't do anything to help soundproof. They can help with sound treatment inside the room.

Later
Rob

sonic assassin · #6 08-11-2009, 06:18 PM

it will deaden the high frequency response of the room. low frequencies will bounce right through it and your room will still be a mess.

acoustic treatment is a complex operation. killing ALL of the reflections in a room will make it sound terrible.

are you trying to make it sound good or make it quiet? 2 very different things.

rarisgod · #7 08-11-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HUnt49

C:\it depends on if it's real acoustic treatment, or a camping pad\

lol

I almost commented on DOS myself.

bongomania · #8 08-11-2009, 06:22 PM

Egg cartons absolutely DO NOT soundproof a room. The very best result you can hope for is that the high frequencies will not bounce around in that room, so the room will be less "bright" sounding.

electracoyote · #9 08-11-2009, 06:25 PM

You would need to elaborate on what you mean by "soundproof." To me, that term means no sound travels through the walls of the room, like an isolation booth.

If you are asking whether or not wall baffling (like egg cartons, carpet, foam) will have the desired effect of limiting the hard surface implications, IMHO, yes, they will if placed appropriately with recognized acoustic principles in mind.

Trevorus · #10 08-11-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HUnt49

C:\it depends on if it's real acoustic treatment, or a camping pad\

C:\ CD .. Very witty

bongomania · #11 08-11-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by electracoyote

If you are asking whether or not wall baffling (like egg cartons, carpet, foam) will have the desired effect of limiting the hard surface implications, IMHO, yes, they will if placed appropriately with recognized acoustic principles in mind.

Be realistic though, the person you are writing to just asked whether egg cartons will soundproof a room. I seriously doubt that person has any idea what you mean by "hard surface implications" or what "recognized acoustic principles" they should keep in mind.

No offense to the OP--just trying to separate useful info from non-useful.

electracoyote · #12 08-11-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

Be realistic though, the person you are writing to just asked whether egg cartons will soundproof a room. I seriously doubt that person has any idea what you mean by "hard surface implications" or what "recognized acoustic principles" they should keep in mind.

No offense to the OP--just trying to separate useful info from non-useful.

You're probably right, and it is now incumbent upon OP to do a little research. I'm not going to go into a disertation on room acoustics.

I think my reply pointed him in the right direction and let him know this is a complex issue.

BTW, you didn't exactly elaborate with your response either.

GregC · #13 08-11-2009, 07:57 PM

Maaaan, I saw this thread from the forum list view, and thought it was about Mike Watt's band, Dos.

bongomania · #14 08-11-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by electracoyote

BTW, you didn't exactly elaborate with your response either.

Nonsense. I used plain, clear language that answered his question directly and did not need any further elaboration.

Jazzdogg · #15 08-11-2009, 08:59 PM

This thread can't possibly be for real; this question's gotta be a yolk!

ggunn · #16 08-11-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vacume

dos it?

No. What it will do is significantly reduce the high frequency reflections off a blank sheetrock wall.

electracoyote · #17 08-11-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

Nonsense. I used plain, clear language that answered his question directly and did not need any further elaboration.

Petty.

electracoyote · #18 08-11-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

Be realistic though, the person you are writing to just asked whether egg cartons will soundproof a room. I seriously doubt that person has any idea what you mean by "hard surface implications" or what "recognized acoustic principles" they should keep in mind.

No offense to the OP--just trying to separate useful info from non-useful.

Also petty.

Jimmy Bones · #19 08-11-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HUnt49

C:\it depends on if it's real acoustic treatment, or a camping pad\

+1

I miss DOS.

Hoover · #20 08-12-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rob2966

They can help with sound treatment inside the room.

Not really.

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Originally Posted by sonic assassin

it will deaden the high frequency response of the room.

Not really.

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Originally Posted by bongomania

The very best result you can hope for is that the high frequencies will not bounce around in that room, so the room will be less "bright" sounding.

Not really.

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Originally Posted by electracoyote

yes, they will if placed appropriately with recognized acoustic principles in mind.

Not really.

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Originally Posted by ggunn

What it will do is significantly reduce the high frequency reflections off a blank sheetrock wall.

Not really (although, in fairness they will alter the high frequency reflections as compared to a blank sheetrock wall).

Here's the definitive dealio on Egg Cartons as acoustic treatment:

http://www.acousticsfirst.com/eggc.htm

Back in 1988 the good folks at Acoustics First (who I am crediting here as per their request) commisioned Riverbank Acoustical Laboratories of Geneva, IL to perform testing to objectively document the actual effect of egg cartons on the walls of a listening room.

In short, they have a Noise Reduction Coefficient of 0.40, which is the equivalent absorption to leaving your dirty laundry in a pile in the corner. So no, they will not do diddly to soundproof the room.

Moreover, they will not "deaden the high frequency response of the room" in any useful or appreciable fashion, because their spectral response is grossly non-linear: Some high frequencies are absorbed (slightly), while other closely-spaced high frequencies aren't affected at all. Unless you live in a concrete bunker, egg cartons are actually worse sounding than having no treatment at all.

Plus they're flammable.