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03-15-2011, 10:30 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jamestown, NY | | | Ebay's new seller update: A JOKE!!!
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Originally Posted by two fingers  I imagine playing that thing is like having several girlfriends at once. It probably seemed like fun at first but........ | |
03-15-2011, 10:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey | | | Did I read correctly that shipping will be added as part of the final value of the sale?? |
03-15-2011, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fleabee Did I read correctly that shipping will be added as part of the final value of the sale?? | Yep. I am flabbergasted.
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Originally Posted by two fingers I imagine playing that thing is like having several girlfriends at once. It probably seemed like fun at first but........ | |
03-15-2011, 10:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NE CT | | I'm not surprised - too many a-holes charging $300 shipping so's they don't have to pay eBay a fair percentage of the sale  .
Plus it sez they reduced their fee percentage to compensate for including the shipping in the amount "taxed"  .
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03-15-2011, 10:45 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey | | | How nice of them to cap it at $100{ugh I hate ebay/paypal} |
03-15-2011, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill I'm not surprised - too many a-holes charging $300 shipping so's they don't have to pay eBay a fair percentage of the sale . |
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03-15-2011, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill I'm not surprised - too many a-holes charging $300 shipping so's they don't have to pay eBay a fair percentage of the sale . | There are already a dozen solutions for that. They can be reported and kicked off. Ebay can search for them like the moderators of this site search for bad posts and boot them. That is the facade of why they are doing it. People can willfully ignore the practice. I just saw one guy today doing that with a guitar and I walked on buy and reported him.
They are doing it because their sales are down, their profit is way down, and their market is reeling. They are greedy pigs and they want to milk every cent. Small, slightly ignorant, low-dollar high volume sellers will be punished 10-fold for this.
Charging excessive shipping only hurts ebay; it doesn't hurt buyers. Not that I'm validating but that's the truth.
The extent of which this will damage my profit is huge. I have about $8,000 in revenue a month. According to this they are raising the maximum ceiling of FVF from $50 to $100, raising FVF on fixed-price from 8.75% to 11%, and now charging fees on shipping(!). Overall, on a $250 sale (which I have about 6-8 a week...not counting all my other sales) with $20 shipping they will be taking an extra $7, roughly. That comes out to hundreds of dollars a month. HUNDREDS.
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03-15-2011, 10:50 AM
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Records of Existence/PyrE owner | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: wes virginny | | | ok.. so i guess Ebay is getting no more sales from me for anything of real value!
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03-15-2011, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by eyeballkid ok.. so i guess Ebay is getting no more sales from me for anything of real value! | It's actually worse for small value sellers. Sell something for $2 now that costs $20 to ship and you are being charged an extra $1.20 just for having to ship the heavy item. After FVF and Paypal fees you just made -$1. EVERY item being sold on ebay now that is under $5 and has shipping over $15 is now WORTHLESS to sell. That's like, 50% of ebay's auctions. I bet even more.
The funny part is, they are charging a fee on a service they don't even provide. Is that lega?
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Originally Posted by two fingers I imagine playing that thing is like having several girlfriends at once. It probably seemed like fun at first but........ | |
03-15-2011, 11:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Fairfield, CA | | | MY wife and I have been selling stuff on Ebay for just over 10 years. In that time, fees have increased, paypal and it's associated fees have been introduced and become the standard for payment. A LOT has changed about Ebay since we started using it.
That said it's still the only place we can market the mostly small value items we sell to such a large group of buyers.
I'll be interested to see how it washes out, the adding shipping into the final value fee. It did say that that the FV fee will be reduced and then shipping costs will be added in.
We've also never sold and item similar to your example above. Most of the stuff we sell is in the $10-$20 range and costs no where near $20 to ship.
I guess I'm different than a lot of people. I do see a value in what Ebay provides "pickers" like us. We get to market our goods to the world for a fee. So far , for the last 10 years, that scenario has been profitable. |
03-15-2011, 11:21 AM
|  | Regal User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orange County, CA | | | jeez, 9% final value fee, plus whatever 2% from paypal? Ouch.
*adopts old man voice* I still remember when eBay cost a nickel!! |
03-15-2011, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jkramer5 MY wife and I have been selling stuff on Ebay for just over 10 years. In that time, fees have increased, paypal and it's associated fees have been introduced and become the standard for payment. A LOT has changed about Ebay since we started using it.
That said it's still the only place we can market the mostly small value items we sell to such a large group of buyers.
I'll be interested to see how it washes out, the adding shipping into the final value fee. It did say that that the FV fee will be reduced and then shipping costs will be added in.
We've also never sold and item similar to your example above. Most of the stuff we sell is in the $10-$20 range and costs no where near $20 to ship.
I guess I'm different than a lot of people. I do see a value in what Ebay provides "pickers" like us. We get to market our goods to the world for a fee. So far , for the last 10 years, that scenario has been profitable. | You can read the forums to see how it already has been washing out, three hours after the announcement. It's going to cut ebay auction numbers in half within months, guaranteed.
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Originally Posted by two fingers I imagine playing that thing is like having several girlfriends at once. It probably seemed like fun at first but........ | |
03-15-2011, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by michael_atw You can read the forums to see how it already has been washing out, three hours after the announcement. It's going to cut ebay auction numbers in half within months, guaranteed. | More customers for me then lol, I'm not going anywhere, let em leave. |
03-15-2011, 12:26 PM
|  | keepin' the beat since the 60's | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Studio City, SoCal, USA | | | eBay cut their allegiance with me when they eliminated negative feedback for buyers. Why even bother if you can only leave positive feedback? What a JOKE.
eBay panders to the buyers and continues to abuse sellers. Ms. Whitman taught them well.
There is really an opening for a competitive site - C'Mon, Google!
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03-15-2011, 12:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Greensboro, NC | | | you guys can always create your own ebay... |
03-15-2011, 12:36 PM
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03-15-2011, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by michael_atw You can read the forums to see how it already has been washing out, three hours after the announcement. It's going to cut ebay auction numbers in half within months, guaranteed. | People say this every time eBay changes their policies. Last I checked, they seem to be doing OK...
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03-15-2011, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLeg thank you craigslist and talkbass. middlemen only serve to complicate a sale. | For the most part...+1, but I've had to troll ebay looking for items that are out of stock at a retailer, but show up for the same price on ebay.
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03-15-2011, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLeg thank you craigslist and talkbass. middlemen only serve to complicate a sale. | That seems to be a trend; There really is ZERO guarantee when using Ebay... And since it's all the honor system, why not use TB??
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03-15-2011, 12:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland | | | Just curious; what does the 100$ cap mean? Does it mean shipping can't cost more than 100$ or that the new "tax" is taken from shipping to the maximum of 100$? Is this the same for international stuff?
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