fast bassists **** off

Jezz8me · #1 06-21-2007, 02:50 AM

honestly i find it infuriating how people are under the impression that you play fast, your good. Personally i find fast bassists show offs that do not fit the music. Yea i accept it in metal but i hate the fact people only want to play fast.

i can play at a decent speed, not terribly fast but i get no joy from it i like when basslines have a melody that supports the music and they arn't just the bass equivalent of shredding.

that is my rant, what ever happened to the bassist who does his job, are we really as bad as guitarists?

Man with an Axe · #2 06-21-2007, 03:03 AM

Well, to those people's knowledge, fast does mean technical prowess, and let's face it... who doesn't want to show off?

Besides, I wouldn't worry about that. Most people can tell when a musician is out of place because he goes lightning speed.

tekhna · #3 06-21-2007, 04:44 AM

I thought the title said fat bassists.
I an underwhelmed by this thread, because I was expecting much hilarity from fat bassists.
That is all.

Jezz8me · #4 06-21-2007, 05:50 AM

lol fat bassists are awesome

but sorry it is fast bassists

Baryonyx · #5 06-21-2007, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jezz8me

honestly i find it infuriating how people are under the impression that you play fast, your good. Personally i find fast bassists show offs that do not fit the music. Yea i accept it in metal but i hate the fact people only want to play fast.

i can play at a decent speed, not terribly fast but i get no joy from it i like when basslines have a melody that supports the music and they arn't just the bass equivalent of shredding.

that is my rant, what ever happened to the bassist who does his job, are we really as bad as guitarists?

Get a clue.

I see sweeping generalisations and trolling abound. Play what you need to. If you need to play fast, do so. If you don't like it, spare us the grief of a thread that will no doubt cause needless arguments.

Bass Boy · #6 06-21-2007, 09:19 AM

I agree with the above post.

bradjonesbass · #7 06-21-2007, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tekhna

I thought the title said fat bassists.
I an underwhelmed by this thread, because I was expecting much hilarity from fat bassists.
That is all.

I'm a fat, slow bassist

Matt Till · #8 06-21-2007, 09:51 AM

It's a different musical approach, some people play different than you: It's a fact.

Not everyone thinks fast = good, but a lot of people do. Most seem to equate technique with musicality. I don't really like shreddy bassists, but some do: Oh well.

James_B · #9 06-21-2007, 09:59 AM

You have to go fast when you're tapping. I need to pretend I'm a guitar player

mrwink · #10 06-21-2007, 10:09 AM

Well... when you have speed you have speed - when you don't, you don't! I DON'T!!! I've been saying for years that I have to work on speed... but never got around to it - I know how to gain speed, I've read tons about it and had several teachers tell me specifically what to do to get it... I guess I haven't needed it enough to bother... till now!

Suddenly I find myself playing in a band where some of the tunes have long fast sections - granted these are pop/rock/r&b/funk tunes so compared to some of the jazz and speed metal stuff I've seen they're prolly not that fast, but still - it's a skill that I have to work on. Will it make me a better player??? Yep! But not because I'm fast or the fastest, only because it's another skill or tool that I can utilize in my playing...

Maybe when it's time for you it will be more important. Note - I work for several churches where the new "hot player" guitar, bass, keys, whatever is the guy with the speed and super chops - whether or not they can actually play a song, so I hear where you're coming from...don't let that get in the way of you growing!

Depth_Charge · #11 06-21-2007, 10:09 AM

I find when I slow most things I try to learn down to say 20%, I have more trouble holding tempo than I do at 50% plus. The bridge to Evanescences' Bring Me To Life where the bass plays the octave/pull off fills is an example I am struggling to play slow.

So...

How slow is slow? And how fast is too fast?

j-bass-kreep · #12 06-21-2007, 10:14 AM

The way I see it playing really fast is a tool and there are places when you have to use it. However I'm not going to play fast all the time. I think the same way about tapping and slapping.

RWP · #13 06-21-2007, 10:16 AM

To me of you can't play fast you are not good. Unless you play well slowly. Then you are good.

Otso · #14 06-21-2007, 11:17 AM

if the tempo over 100bpm you r playing 16th notes you r show of wanker who needs to **** of and go play guitr.

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This thread called for such a response.

hbarcat · #15 06-21-2007, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jezz8me

fast bassists **** off

honestly i find it infuriating how people are under the impression that you play fast, your good. Personally i find fast bassists show offs that do not fit the music. Yea i accept it in metal but i hate the fact people only want to play fast.

i can play at a decent speed, not terribly fast but i get no joy from it i like when basslines have a melody that supports the music and they arn't just the bass equivalent of shredding.

that is my rant, what ever happened to the bassist who does his job, are we really as bad as guitarists?

I play fast ...when it's appropriate, and I can play very fast when I want to and I enjoy doing so. I also do my job as a bassist holding down the bottom end, keeping in the groove, and adding all those other little things like dynamics, phrasing, touch and feel, as well as a whole lot of other intangibles a close-minded weener like yourself never thought of. If you think that fast = poor bass player then f*** off, yourself.

wmcjhi · #16 06-21-2007, 11:36 AM

Hoo-ah, I want in tooooooo!

My only real input:

Don't think that because you saw a video on youtube of a guy playing fast, he sucks. Maybe he felt like doing that for fun. Fun is subjective.

Poop-Loops · #17 06-21-2007, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jezz8me

that is my rant, what ever happened to the bassist who does his job, are we really as bad as guitarists?

I totally agree. You shouldn't play music to have fun, but to let the rest of the band have fun. You should stay burried in the mix, stand in the corner, stand still, and play the hell out of that root note. What, you play something other than the root? What are you, a guitarist? Do your damn job.

Then you can complain that you don't get any attention, you aren't appreciated, and that people say bass is easy.

lefty007 · #18 06-21-2007, 12:02 PM

You rant applies to any music style and to any instrument.

You need to play apropiately for the song. If you are playing Paganini's caprices, you better playing them at tempo. If you are a blues bass player, you better lock it down and let it simmer nice and slow. . . etc.

It's all about playing for the song and not exceeding your talent. Nothing worse than somebody trying to play fast when they can't.

I love Planet X as much as I love Norah Jones. . .

metalstorm · #19 06-21-2007, 12:13 PM

To me, being a good bass player means playing what is require for the song. If the songs needs fast bass, then thats what i play, if it needs me to chill out and play straight 8th notes i have no problem doing that either.

Johnny Crab · #20 06-21-2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lefty007

You rant applies to any music style and to any instrument.

You need to play apropiately for the song. If you are playing Paganini's caprices, you better playing them at tempo. If you are a blues bass player, you better lock it down and let it simmer nice and slow. . . etc.

It's all about playing for the song and not exceeding your talent. Nothing worse than somebody trying to play fast when they can't.

I love Planet X as much as I love Norah Jones. . .

+100

End of thread. Left has spoken the final word.