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Old 05-23-2008, 01:15 AM
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Flow Chart for Metal Genres.

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Taken from the excellent movie: Metal a Headbangers Journey. I find it to be very nice and well organised. Of course Im sure there are debatable classifications, but this is the best chart Ive seen in a long time. Id add Celtic Folk Metal on there if it were me. Also please note that Cradle of Filth is British, not Norweighian.

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No folk metal?
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Errors. Judas Priest was in the NWOBHM and Rainbow is not power metal.

Other than that. Actually damn good.
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Leaving out doom metal = fail.
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Nice effort, if confusing diagram.

But where's ambient metal?
And why isn't King Crimson in there (presumably under early or progressive metal)?
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Leaving out doom metal = fail.
They did list Candlemass and Cathedral under Stoner Metal.



Doom came before Stoner.

And where's Sludge? haha.
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Errors. Judas Priest was in the NWOBHM
Judas Priest released their first album in 1974, well before the NWOBH began. They did however rise to their greatest popularity during the NWOBH, releasing British Steel, Point of Entry, Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith during that time.

The band has reinvented itself several times, beginning as a hard rocking psychedelic band on up through speed metal when Scott Travis joined.

Actually i would question the logic of making NWOBH a genre category at all since it more of an era than a musical subdivision.
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There are two types of metal: good and bad.
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Judas Priest released their first album in 1974, well before the NWOBH began. They did however rise to their greatest popularity during the NWOBH, releasing British Steel, Point of Entry, Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith during that time.

The band has reinvented itself several times, beginning as a hard rocking psychedelic band on up through speed metal when Scott Travis joined.

Actually i would question the logic of making NWOBH a genre category at all since it more of an era than a musical subdivision.
Bah, I meant to say that Priest hit large once the NWOBHM hit. They did have some solid work beforehand, with Sad Wings of Destiny, etc, etc. That is definitely early roots metal.

Seeing some of their outfits and stuff during their Rocka Rolla days...

BUT. To call them Power Metal? That's the real error.

And I agree with you on NWOBHM being a time period rather than a genre. I don't classify Maiden as such, I just say Heavy Metal.
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Don't see the point in it myself. Nice idea? Aye. Theres some glaring flaws to any metal fan in it though.

re: people asking why "_____ metal" isn't there, theres so many subgenres of metal now that it'd take about 50pages to fit them all in now!
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I didnt make the chart, as I said in OP. I just thought it was a nice guidline.
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this Chart is stupid
If anyone thinks Grindcore came from Swedish Death metal, they know nothing about metal.
Grindcore came from people listening to Crust Punk like Discharge. Crust isn't even on there.
I hate it.
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Dammit, where's the doom? COC is metalcore? Maybe their first two albums, but after that their pretty much stoner. FAIL!!!
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Yeah...screw that chart. Sam Dunn has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. He should take his anthropology degree and stick it.

Although I don't totally agree with his categorization, it is pretty accurate. Just because somebody's favorite band isn't on the list, don't get your panties in a wad. I don't think there's enough bandwidth to get every band on the chart.
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Cradle and Dimmu should of been under 3rd wave bm but other than that its pretty cool
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Although I don't totally agree with his categorization, it is pretty accurate.
Its already been pointed out that there are some really obvious inaccuracies. Renders it completely pointless to me. Seems like a guy with no actual knowledge of the history of metal has tried to put it together based on when the bands were together and where they're from.
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Its already been pointed out that there are some really obvious inaccuracies. Renders it completely pointless to me. Seems like a guy with no actual knowledge of the history of metal has tried to put it together based on when the bands were together and where they're from.
Have you seen his documentary?
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this Chart is stupid
If anyone thinks Grindcore came from Swedish Death metal, they know nothing about metal.
Grindcore came from people listening to Crust Punk like Discharge. Crust isn't even on there.
I hate it.
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I always thought Napalm Death were just a heavy, angry punk band!

Plus, classifying Rush as metal is a shocking disservice.
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Its already been pointed out that there are some really obvious inaccuracies. Renders it completely pointless to me. Seems like a guy with no actual knowledge of the history of metal has tried to put it together based on when the bands were together and where they're from.
Yeah like the guy above said have you seen the documentary? Its actually pretty good.

This chart is off in several places (COC is metalcore?!?!) but the documentary is actually pretty badass.
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