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Old 05-23-2006, 11:58 AM
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Just listening to Sheik Yerbouti, which always makes me laugh, and it occurred to me that I can't think of anyone else with such a tremendous talent - genius, even - for music that used it almost exclusively for comic effect.

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EDIT Oops, meant to post this in "Miscellaneous" - sorry, people.
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Old 05-23-2006, 12:16 PM
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I would say Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper
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Just listening to Sheik Yerbouti, which always makes me laugh, and it occurred to me that I can't think of anyone else with such a tremendous talent - genius, even - for music that used it almost exclusively for comic effect.

Discuss please.

EDIT Oops, meant to post this in "Miscellaneous" - sorry, people.
I may have misunderstood you but I don't think comic effect was his sole musical purpose. He has a large amount of instrumental music, both orchestral and jazz oriented.
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:45 PM
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"Jazz From Hell" is a great album. I still find it hilarious that, although it is entirely instrumental, it still managed to garner a "Parental Advisory-Explicit Lyrics" sticker. That man had a reputation that far overshadowed his music. I listen to "Joe's Garage" and "Apostrophe/Overnight Sensation" a lot. I miss Frank.
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:59 PM
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I love Zappa, especially Hot Rats, Waka Jawaka and The Grand Wazoo.

I read one of his biographies by Barry Miles, thought it was a great read. It was cool to see that even though he often came off as an egomaniac, that he was also human and open to lots of different types of media.
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I would definitely consider Freak Out!, Absolutely Free!, and The Grand Wazoo to be in my top 20 albums of all time. I'd put We're only in it for the Money in my top 5.
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:49 PM
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What gets me is that so many people don't realize he was a great guitarist. I mean, listen to Black Napkins...Man, I love that!
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I love Zappa. I agree with the first post. I was going to argue the point about Frank using his gift "almost exclusively for comic effect" - but the more I think about it, that's not too far from the truth. The only examples I can think of to dispute that statement are instrumentals. Granted, Frank Zappa did a lot of different things - he was a legitimate classical composer (and there's nothing funny about that) but most of his rock and roll, while not all of it is the "potty humor" people often associate him with, most of it contains an element of humor. Does humor belong in music? I say yes.
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The first time I heard Zappa was Apostrophe! A drummer friend of mine, an older guy, played it for me. He quoted the entire cd while it was playing. I then bought Sheik Yerbouti and Joes Garage.

The instrumental stuff is amazing.....but the first time I heard apostrophe, I nearly p!ssed myself laughing more than once. I still can't help but laugh when I hear it...or worse, like now, that I'm just thinking about it.
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:55 PM
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Nobody lays down a guitar solo like Zappa.
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Love "Zoot Allures" for pure guitar/instrument genius! Includes afore mentioned "Black Napkins".

I miss Frank too - he was a great social watchdog. Not many of those around any more.

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Muffin man has got to be one of my favorite songs of all time, follwed closly by Joe's garage.
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I bought Sheik Yerbouti the day after watching the video "Baby Snakes" at my friend's house. It is one of my favorite albums of all time. "Hey there people I'm Bobby Brown..."classic!
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