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Old 03-16-2012, 04:00 PM
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I'm not a big Twisted sister fan, but I'm glad they were still at it with all original members--that was around 2 years ago so don't kill me if I'm wrong now. Sabbath & Maiden too. I can't confirm if they're still OG members but I'm glad they're still playing. Unfortunately Helmet has only founding member Page Hamilton; the rest of the band are subs.
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+1 on Clutch,also Shadows Fall and if you liked Helmet witch I love,cheeck out Kylesa.
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:10 PM
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Agreed but we're somewhat talking about more recent bands. These are all classics/given/understood. If you don't know these bands you aren't metal-head.
Agreed.

FWIW, you guys are turning me on to a couple bands I havent heard of.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:19 PM
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My favorite metal bands that happen to be Christian bands are.

Extol- fave album is undeceived

Antestor- great black metal styled band.

On the more hardcore metal area

Betraying the martyrs- breath life is one of my fave albums right now.
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Why does that matter? Isn't all the imagery and costumes used by metalhead artists just posturing and for shock value? I would be hard pressed to think that most, if any, of the so-called Satanic or devil-worshipping bands are actually that. Besides, why should anyone believe in such things?

I say, don't pay attention to that. Concentrate on the music, which is the important thing in the end.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:37 PM
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Mastodon
Opeth (earlier material is more sinister as far as lyrical content goes, even blackwater park is mostly about how much people suck but later albums are more varied)
These two are co-headlining a tour this spring GO SEE EM (they are playing with another great band called Ghost but based on your criteria you might not like them, they are very polished hi-fi 70s sounding and obviously theatrical in a way you might not like at all.)

Neurosis (A Sun That Never Sets, Through Silver, Enemy, Times)
Death (Chuck got all his zombie/gore/b-horror lyrics out of the way with his first album, the rest are about all sorts of interesting topics.)
Bathory (listen to Hammerheart, some of Blood Fire Death, Twilight, Nordland series, Blood on Ice. It's all about bad ass vikings. Some of it seriously pumps you up. They are all like soundtracks to medieval war movies.)
Iron Maiden (obviously, they have a few songs you probably won't like lyrically but overall you'll probably like most of it. Start with Powerslave and Piece of Mind)

I hope that helps some, though lots of those bands are very involved in theatrics. That's part of what makes a show entertaining dude! Death was not so much about that, just the musical skill. Bathory never played live.

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Not to slam on religion, but heavy metal was meant to be a dark F you to parents and the mainstream. So Christian "metal" has never made sense to me. But then again Sabbath did have some "god" positive songs so its really not worth arguing. I dig As I Lie Dying and they are xtians so I don't wanna be too hypocritical, but for the most part xtianity isn't a big part of heavy metal heritage.
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Besides, why should anyone believe in such things?
Theres actually this thing thats been around for awhile, and is pretty much universal popular around the world, though with a few variations here and there. Man, its right on the tip of my tongue, I think it starts with a "re" and ends with a "gion." Never been my cup a tea though.

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I love all the gory and satanic stuff in metal, especially in extreme metal, though I see it as the musical equivalent of horror movies, one of my other loves. Be it an awesomely cheesy campfest like Evil Dead or a masterfully thought out masterpiece like Silence of the Lambs.
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:06 PM
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Not to slam on religion, but heavy metal was meant to be a dark F you to parents and the mainstream. So Christian "metal" has never made sense to me. But then again Sabbath did have some "god" positive songs so its really not worth arguing. I dig As I Lie Dying and they are xtians so I don't wanna be too hypocritical, but for the most part xtianity isn't a big part of heavy metal heritage.
Oh no I know its not where it came from at all. But I don't know if you can base a genre of music on lyrical content IMO.

Does a riff change because some took pictures for their album cover in front of a burning church not really. But as a huge metal head I definitely understand that metal didn't start Christian or religious at all.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:06 PM
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Oh no I know its not where it came from at all. But I don't know if you can base a genre of music on lyrical content IMO.

Does a riff change because some took pictures for their album cover in front of a burning church not really. But as a huge metal head I definitely understand that metal didn't start Christian or religious at all.
Just wanted to say that in alot of extreme metal, especially Black metal, the genre that get the most criticism due to satanic imagery, the whole sound does revolve the lyrical content that is in turn directly reflected in that dark, isolated, and chaotic atmosphere, not the other way around. Even though that for even the most well versed in the genre, alot of times the lyrics can be highly unintelligible, and I actually liken it more to another instrumental layer in the mix than traditionally accepted singing. The real power lies in the musical force, as in you may not understand precisely what message a song is trying to portray, but understand the overall emotional force behind it, and hence the lyrical content which it represents. This is a big reason I really don't understand things like Christian black metal which present completely different ideologies, and seems artificially forced and cheapened since the musical content isn't a true reflection of the lyrical symbolism.

No offense meant to anybody, just my personal take. And sorry if this makes no sense, I'm really freakin tired.
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I'm too lazy to read through every post, so I'll just throw my suggestion out there.

August Burns Red. I only listen to them for the incredible instrumentation, and the fact that there isn't constant screaming that makes me want to punch a hole in the drywall.

They're definitely worth listening to
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Just wanted to say that in alot of extreme metal, especially Black metal, the genre that get the most criticism due to satanic imagery, the whole sound does revolve the lyrical content that is in turn directly reflected in that dark, isolated, and chaotic atmosphere, not the other way around. Even though that for even the most well versed in the genre, alot of times the lyrics can be highly unintelligible, and I actually liken it more to another instrumental layer in the mix than traditionally accepted singing. The real power lies in the musical force, as in you may not understand precisely what message a song is trying to portray, but understand the overall emotional force behind it, and hence the lyrical content which it represents. This is a big reason I really don't understand things like Christian black metal which present completely different ideologies, and seems artificially forced and cheapened since the musical content isn't a true reflection of the lyrical symbolism.

No offense meant to anybody, just my personal take. And sorry if this makes no sense, I'm really freakin tired.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:49 AM
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Lamb Of God, man this is best grooce metal ever.
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some of my favs have already been mentioned such as Animals as Leaders, Obscura, Opeth, and Mastodon

ive just started listing to some of these bands though and love them'

Sylosis, Across the Sun, Oceans Ate Alaska, Limit Zero, Creations End, and Gordian Knot
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I love me some metal once in a while but I can do without the white makeup/black eyes/goats heads/dead babies etc. I listen to everything I can get my ears on. Ravi Shankar, Kaspar Brotzmann Massacre, Lana Del Rey. Everything. Just looking for some good kick ass metal without the theatrical dept.
A friend turned me on to the group, Crash, today. Not bad. I liked Helmet in the 90's. The Crucified--excellent but bass not mixed in loud enough. Old Bad Brains stuff is classic. I'd like Slipknot much more without the drama. System--unusual but yes.
So recommend current metal non-glam post-2010.
Becoming the Archetype. What incredible instrumentalists. Here's a great track from my fav album of theirs. Enjoy.

Elegy - Becoming the Archetype - YouTube
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