Guns & Roses

banks · #1 10-28-2010, 11:21 AM

Has anyone else seen the video footage when Duff played with Axl recently? Rolllingstone.com has some good footage. Not to discredit the band but watching the footage it seems like a G&R covering G&R. I guess those of us who grew up during that era are used to the real thing. I like the new G&R cd. Slash's cd was good. Watching any other version of the band isn't the same.

powderfinger · #2 10-28-2010, 12:31 PM

I liked about 3 songs on the new album, Chinese Democracy. I thought they tried to go and sound too modern. All the nu-metal leanings and electronic beats made me sick when I heard the album. I was jamming to Appetite in the late 80s and early 90s, and later the Use Your Illusions. I dont know what Chinese Democracy was supposed to be... but I tell you what is wasnt... it wasnt the GNR my generation knew and loved. It was like an Axl solo album, IMO.

LiamPodmore · #3 10-28-2010, 12:38 PM

Chinese Democracy was not Guns n Roses. It was Axl Rose and his Posers. The old, real, Guns n Roses is alot better. And this is coming from someone who wasnt alive through most of the true GnR era.

Liam

A-Step-Towards · #4 10-28-2010, 12:45 PM

I guess you can say I am not a true fan since I was born in '89 , 3 years into there big fame and of course to much of a baby when they were popular in the 90's however I have been a huge fan for 6 or 7 years, one reason why I kept playing bass. Own all there CD's and a ton of crap. GNR slowly fell apart and after Izzy leaving it was over, izzy is really an underrated member he had alot to do with it, losing steven was not a huge impact, although it was sad the road he chose and the fact today he is so messed up and still struggling with sobriety.

I was not a fan of velvet revolver at all, and why did they want scott as a singer? he was unreliable. I respect GNR original line up for not getting back together as it would seem it was only about the money to me. However, I would be willing to pay a hefty price 200$+ for tickets to that show, if it was the original full line up, with only music from 86-94 era.

I had not heard of Duff and Axl playing together, from the way I heard of it Duff did not leave on a sore note with axl, he left in 1997 after i guess nothing progressed. Slash in 1995 and I dont think that was as pretty of a leaving.

I just wish axl let the GNR name die with slash and duff leaving.

powderfinger · #5 10-28-2010, 01:55 PM

Yes, Izzy was a vital part of the bands early success. He was the Keith Richards to Slash's Ronnie Wood, if you will.

The new GNR did feature one of my fave old school bassists though.. Tommy Stinson (Replacements).

powderfinger · #6 10-28-2010, 01:57 PM

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I guess you can say I am not a true fan since I was born in '89.

Not true... age has nothing to do with being a true fan. I was born in the mid 70s, and am a HUGE Beatles fan

tdub0199 · #7 10-28-2010, 02:10 PM

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Not true... age has nothing to do with being a true fan. I was born in the mid 70s, and am a HUGE Beatles fan

^+100

I was born in 1973 and I am a huge Pink Floyd fan!!!!

svtb15 · #8 10-28-2010, 02:15 PM

In the 80s we called them Needles & Noses....

EdHunter · #9 10-29-2010, 01:05 AM

I just hope Velvet Revolver see sense, get Seb Bach in and do a tour for the sheer fun of it. Forget ay connotations of trying to be something new, and just be the single most fun band around. Imagine the encore: Rocket Queen, 18 & Life and Slither!

powderfinger · #10 10-29-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EdHunter

I just hope Velvet Revolver see sense, get Seb Bach in and do a tour for the sheer fun of it. Forget ay connotations of trying to be something new, and just be the single most fun band around. Imagine the encore: Rocket Queen, 18 & Life and Slither!

I would run like hell!!!

pnut166 · #11 10-29-2010, 08:04 AM

Has anyone heard Duff`s side band "Loaded" ? They are prepping a new disc, and the last one was really good. Duff plays rhythm and sings, and does a pretty good job @ both. Not to mention, their bassist, Jeff Rouse, is a monster ! If VR reforms, they need to just put Duff out front - he can do it ! As far as AXl`s deal ... AFD came out when I was in 8th grade, and it was a defining moment for me. Same for "Illusion(s)" To see what he has become and what he`s done with the name is sad. I remember Axl Rose as a dirt poor, bad*ss rock `n roller that walked the walk. Look at him now - he doesn`t even realize what he has become - a self - aggrandizing, eccentric weirdo and wasted talent. A 28 yo Axl would`ve detested the current version. A caricature of his former self. He was never a good singer, IMO, but a fantastic songwriter and frontman. You can see glimpses of it here and there on ChiDem, and it only reminds you of how did he run off the rails so far ?

SimplemanBB450 · #12 10-29-2010, 08:11 AM

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^+100

I was born in 1973 and I am a huge Pink Floyd fan!!!!

+1 - Born in '82, starting listening heavily to Pink Floyd in '99-'00 and they have been one of my fav bands!!

banks · #13 10-29-2010, 11:31 AM

Duff's style of playing in G&R def. was an influence on my playing. When AFD came out I had picked up the bass maybe a month before I heard Sweet Child. Yes Izzy is very underrated. The ju ju hound albums were very good rock & roll.

tycobb73 · #14 10-29-2010, 11:53 AM

If Axl wasn't Axl we'd be talking about them in the same sentence as ACDC and Metallica.

EdHunter · #15 10-30-2010, 06:12 AM

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+1 - Born in '82, starting listening heavily to Pink Floyd in '99-'00 and they have been one of my fav bands!!

I'm only 17 and love nothing more tha postulating on whether there was one single person who caused Pink to go insane.

Unrepresented · #16 10-30-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EdHunter

I just hope Velvet Revolver see sense, get Seb Bach in and do a tour for the sheer fun of it. Forget ay connotations of trying to be something new, and just be the single most fun band around. Imagine the encore: Rocket Queen, 18 & Life and Slither!

Just finished Slash's autobiography, which I'd heavily recommend to anyone who's a big GnR fan.

Bach was among those auditioning for the spot with Velvet Revolver and he wasn't particularly popular with a few members. I doubt you'll see him join.

I did like Chinese Democracy. I didn't love it, but thought it was a good album, even if not able to move me the same way that the Illusions had.

A-Step-Towards · #17 10-31-2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by banks

Duff's style of playing in G&R def. was an influence on my playing. When AFD came out I had picked up the bass maybe a month before I heard Sweet Child. Yes Izzy is very underrated. The ju ju hound albums were very good rock & roll.

Yes very!

and velvet revolver really does just need to make duff sing, he is a great singer for punk style music.