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07-29-2007, 02:53 AM
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I was down at the studio helping the engineer record some lame band.
bass player comes up... here is what he had to do...
DI from his sansamp
DI from his head
4 Mics on his 4x10
2 on his 1x15
2 Overheads
Plus our crowd mics
Was a PITA to set up.
Still sounded like crap.
Because his band sucks.  |
07-29-2007, 03:28 AM
| | | | lol. You know it's bad when the cr*ppy ones are the ones that require the most effort. |
07-29-2007, 09:46 AM
|  | Louisiana Superdome. S 127. R 22. S 12-13. Moderator | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Mobile, Al | | | Geeze! I think the most tracks I've ever used in the studio was 3. This guy sounds like he wanted to compete with the drummer over track usage. What a tool.
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07-29-2007, 10:11 AM
| | | HAHA 11 channels for the bass player?   I might have said sure, then just recorded him from the crowd mic.  |
07-29-2007, 10:17 AM
| | | | Gawd!....totally pointless overkill.
12+ tracks for a single bass line?
I feel sorry for whoever has to do the mix, the bass player probably thinks that each channel will make his sound bigger and bigger, but it won't, and will probably have the opposite effect in the end.
There is a reason that top producers DON'T record basses that way. It's a wonder he didn't want you to mic the bass also, that would be funny. |
07-29-2007, 10:21 AM
|  | Hip No Ties | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Money bass player comes up... here is what he had to do...
DI from his sansamp
DI from his head
4 Mics on his 4x10
2 on his 1x15
2 Overheads
Plus our crowd mics | Whoa. That's out of control... 
I must admit, I've sometimes had less than stellar results with engineers who record me running direct only. So from now on I insist upon running a microphone from a cabinet too. Plus maybe a DI from my SansAmp. Maybe. But at most that would be three channels. I can't see how any bassist would ever need more than that...
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07-29-2007, 10:30 AM
| | <- Not me I just like looking at her | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cable Wi | | | A clean and effected DI and a mic or maybe two. Four mics on his 4x10 how did he want them setup thats ridiculous? |
07-29-2007, 10:37 AM
| | | | That's probably even more convoluted than the diagram I saw of Billy Sheehan's recording rig, which was in Bass Player many years ago.
Four mikes on a 4x10? What the hell? One for each speaker? Heh.
Man, that thing must've sounded like butt with all the phase cancellations happening everywhere. |
07-29-2007, 10:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland | | | I bet the phase issues were fun to try and deal with!
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07-29-2007, 10:43 AM
| | Notes we play > Gear we play them on | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wisconsin | | | Whatever, everyone knows that the top left speaker on a 4x10 has a really crunchy sound that you can't get from the other drivers. Personally, I'm more of a fan of the LOWER left driver as it retains the grit of the top left but blends that with a tone that has a bit of the minty smoothness from the lower right. |
07-29-2007, 10:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Texas | | Quote:
Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk I bet the phase issues were fun to try and deal with! | +1000
Just an example of someone trying to be bigger than they really are. Compensating for something maybe??  |
07-29-2007, 11:02 AM
|  | I fling carrots | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Make a left at the Taco Bell | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Spector_Ray +1000
Just an example of someone trying to be bigger than they really are. Compensating for something maybe?? | Most def.!
When I record, I use the exact same setup as my live rig... DI outta my SVT-III Pro and ONE mic on my 410XL. I'm easy to get along with...
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07-29-2007, 11:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia | | | As long as the band is paying the cash, they can burn up studio time as stupidly as they want.
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07-29-2007, 11:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oakville, Ontario | | Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDuck Whatever, everyone knows that the top left speaker on a 4x10 has a really crunchy sound that you can't get from the other drivers. Personally, I'm more of a fan of the LOWER left driver as it retains the grit of the top left but blends that with a tone that has a bit of the minty smoothness from the lower right. | Post of the month!
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07-29-2007, 12:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indiana | | | Justin Meldal-Johnsen who plays with beck said when he records he goes direct , records with bass amp (usually Ampeg b15) and he uses a guitar amp (fender twin or marshall half stack) to get a fuzz sound. He has alot of interesting ideas on recording. There is a giant interview on bassplayer.tv and he goes through tons of recording things. |
07-29-2007, 12:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Finland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDuck Whatever, everyone knows that the top left speaker on a 4x10 has a really crunchy sound that you can't get from the other drivers. Personally, I'm more of a fan of the LOWER left driver as it retains the grit of the top left but blends that with a tone that has a bit of the minty smoothness from the lower right. | LOL I didn't know that...
Yep, +1 on post of the month!
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