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Old 08-30-2006, 02:55 PM
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Has your bass tone... evolved?

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I thought this would be an interesting topic. It may just be me, but I have realized that I've gone through an interesting change.

When I first started on bass, I wanted nothing but bass. I changed the strings to flat wounds and turned down the treble and killed the tweeter. I hated string noise and I hated the high end. Now, I have steel strings and I use a lot of mids and highs with the tweeter on 1/2.

I guess you could say I've changed from a dub tone to a more "British invasion" tone.

That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with a dub tone, I'm just saying that I've come to find a different sound that works better for me.

So... Has anyone else changed their perception of what a bass should sound like? Or have you always had "the tone"
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:07 PM
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The sound in my head was originally a very scooped tone. I tried for a long time to get a very good slap scoop tone out of the couple of basses I used to own.

When I finally got the equipment to nail that sound... I had evolved into a flat EQ sort of tone. The sound of my Warwick was one that lent itself to great flat EQ. The higher strings sounded really well, so I started using them more than I originally did.

I've also learned my bass' own pre-amp in and out, and use it extensively to change between Motown, flat, and rock. I hardly ever do massive scoopage anymore or touch my amp's EQ.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:10 PM
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To the OP, when I started out, I was exactly the same. All bass, no highs, and barely any mids. I would turn the bass knob on my 3-band all the way up, cut the treble, and leave the mid midway. Now I'm almost the complete opposite. I have my mid about 3 quarters, treble cranked, and bass midway. I just realized we also play through the same cab. I used to pretty much turn the tweeter off, but now...well I haven't play through it in a while, so I don't even know what I would do with it.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:14 PM
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I started with an ugly scooped sound complimented by terrible piano-hammer technique. Over time my technique became much much better, and I tend to set my eq very flat and let the bass speak more.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:18 PM
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Yeah, good thread idea!
I'm heading in the opposite direction, Started out with half rounds, then Rotos, W/ a T-Bird through 18's and 15's.
Then D'Addario XL Reds (super bright copper coated rounds no longer made) on a Kubicki in a bi amp rig w/ 12's and 15's. I was known for my thumb and grind sound.

Now I'm looking for a certain passive/mid thing and I'm back to Ground Rounds and flats through a simple 100W tube head and some combo of a 15, a 12 or both. I haven't slapped or popped in years and have no need for a tweeter.

I can't account for the tone morph over the years, it certainly isn't following any trends! I'd say overall I'm loving less vs. more and looking for the essence. Whoh, am I heavy or what?
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:21 PM
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I used to be after a very bright sound, very clear and sharp. Now I'm after something bright, but with a tight low end and a rich midrange that cuts through the mix. I guess these days I just know what I'm after a little better! I still love the high end, I use 10" speakers exclusively, because I crave definition!
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:23 PM
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I started off with a majorly scooped sound, active electronics, stainless steel strings, but EQ'ed the highs out.

Now, I'm mostly passive, nickel rounds and paly with a mostly flat EQ.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:24 PM
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Yeah, good thread idea!
I'm heading in the opposite direction...
Thanks. I don't want anyone to be afraid to post. There is no right or wrong tone. I just find it interesting how we change.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:26 PM
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My tone has changed, and is still changing. When I started out playing bass, I used to roll the tone controll all the way down and play over the neck pickup, then a few years ago I started to go the other way and took to using SS strings and boosting highs on the preamp and the tone controlls and played only over the bridge pickup. Now, I still boost the highs on my preamp and have my tone all the way up, but I also boost lows, and alternate between playing on top of the bridge pickup and the neck pickup and between them. If I had to guess, the next step in this progression would be to also boost certain mids, without backing off on the highs or the lows, to try and have a Richard Bona type sound...but who knows.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:50 PM
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I'm not sure whether my tone is evolving or I just haven't found my tone. I started out all bass. Then, I migrated to a scooped tone. Now, I play fairly flat EQ with a little lift on the low mids. I still employ the scooped EQ when I slap. It just depends on what I'm playing.

It's nice to have options. Tonal variety is the spice of bass.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:44 PM
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Started with a P Bass, nickel rounds and a flat eq.

11 years later still play the same.
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Well, I started with a P-Bass copy that was so good that it had the tone pot soldered closed, so couldn't get any high end from it at all. I then moved to an ibanez which worked and now I'm at a MM Sterling, so yes. Mind, I still go back to that old tone from time to time.

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The Perfect tone in my mind is Victor Wootens, cept I would have a little more bass in mine.
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:03 PM
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Same here. I started out with a scopped mid-range thing going on, and it changed for several reasons...It's shapped by other musicians I here, the type of muisc I'm into at the time, my on musical experience, and most of all a higher paying job to afford better stuff. Right now I'm running everything flat.
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Old 08-30-2006, 06:58 PM
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early on i'd cut all my treble boost my mids a little bit and boost the bass more, i've been noticing that my EQ keeps getting set flatter and flatter as time goes on
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:05 PM
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Yeah, my tone has changed over the years, too. However, the concept of what a bass should sound like has also changed. Not only is the trend now to be much more hifi, but there is also a wider variety of bass tones and styles being presented in the music of today. I LOVE THE VARIETY!

Of course, when I started gigging the only sound anyone wanted was the James Jamerson Motown sound. The required gear was a P-bass (well, maybe a J would be OK), nickel flatwounds, and a tube amp (preferably Ampeg) with one or (better) two 15's. Tweeter? We don't need no stinkin' tweeter! The amps only had one- or two-band EQ, so it was easy to turn the bass up and the treble down without getting confused by all those middle frequencies!
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:08 PM
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Typical rolled off passive tone < Passive tone with tone control on < Heavily boosted mids.

Fairly logically progression for a rock bassist who likes to hear themselves at all times.
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:11 PM
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I was fairly tone-ignorant for many years. Most of my heaviest gigging years I had no idea how amp eq worked (in any depth), and also no idea how the bass' electronics interacted with the amp.
This was me too! At one time I actually had strings on my EBO that were covered in either vinyl or plastic of some kind. Must have sounded horrible. (MUD)
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:14 PM
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I started out with playing with a scooped sound and a light touch. Now I play much more aggressively with more mids. It's almost a de-evolution from a modern refined tone to a more vintage snarling tone.
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