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Old 12-21-2010, 02:53 PM
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I've been wanting to post this thread for a while now, but just haven't been able. I fele like explaining my ordeal might be useful for someone else, or maybe get some feedback from others that have gone through this.

Several yeras ago, I hurt my shoulder by throwing a softball too hard. I could not throw at all for the rest of the season, and it continued to bother me for about a year. I was OK this past spring. During the summer, I had some aching in my right shoulder, and just shrugged it off to bursitis or just plain getting old. In october, I suddenly developed sever neck and shoulder pain. So severe that I went to a Chiro for the first time, as he is a good friend and I trust him. After 3 weeks, the pain was only somewhat better, and I still had numbness, weakness and tingling in my arm. I went to my MD, and we did an MRI on my neck and shoulder. It turns out that I had two herniated disks, C5-6 & C6-7, and a torn rotator cuff in my rt shoulder. The lesson I learned here is that even if Chiro treatment is effective, it takes time, and your chiro can't prescribe any help for the pain. Nothing over-the-counter helped, so I was greatly relieved when I got some real relief from my MD.

I decided to have surgery on my neck, and then see what the shoulder felt like. On 10/25 I had surgery, and went home the next day. Because they went in from the front of my neck, the main discomfort I had was a constant sense of being choked. The same feel you have after being hit in the adams apple. It took weeks for that to go away, and I still have that sense once in a while. I had some soreness in both shoulders for several weeks, and I was concerned that there still may be a problem, but that has gone away completely, and I am now pain free. I have been doing physical therapy 1-2 times a week ever since the surgery, and that has been a tremendous help.

Although the pain was much better after the surgery, and the numbness and tingling were gone, I was surprised by the amount of weakness I still had in my right arm. The medical explanation is that the nerve was and still is damaged, but will heal with therapy and time. The grip gauge measured my left hand strength at 85, and my right hand at 35. Big difference.

Of course one of my biggest concerns through all of this has been how it will impact my bass playing. While I was hurting and trying chiro care, I just took Ibuprofen and dealt with the pain the best I could. I did play sitting down, but was tight and had my normal groove. Fortunately we are not gigging that much, so I've only had to deal with practice. My surgery was on a Monday, and I was at practice on Friday. I had a soft collar, continued to play sitting down, and practiced a "No Bobbing Allowed" rule. While I was not in any pain, I could tell right away that my groove was gone in a couple of ways.

First, I could not keep a steady rythm with my right hand fingers. It was like I had no control, and could not hit the string right. I was either too deep on the pad or just brushing the tip, but I could not get it right. I also had problems shifting strings. My left hand would be there, but my right finger would hit the wrong string. It was really pretty annoying and frustrating.

Now, after almost two months of PT focused primarily on my arm, shoulder and hand, I can say I feel like I am getting my groove back. Those PT vguys are amazing. They can take my complaint, test a few of my abilities, and identify exactly which muscle to work. I am going to add a couple of their tools to my home gym, especially the bands. Last week I started getting back into my nightly technique and scale exercises, and I think this will be a big help. Always go back to the fundementals when you need to get your groove back.

Something else I learned is that heat is not always the best therapy for soreness. Because my pain was coming from a pinched and damaged nerve, I needed to use ice. Ice reduced the blood flow, and hence, the swelling in the area, releaving pressure on the nerve and reducing the pain. Heat increases blood flow and swelling which is what you want when trying to releave muscle soreness.

If any of you guys have had this experience, please let me know if there is anything else I can do to speed up my recovery. And if you have any pain in your neck or shoulder, don't ignore it. The earlier you deal with it, the more likely you are to respond to lighter, easier, and cheaper treatment.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:36 PM
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I am suffering multiple myeloma and it affects my spine. Some folks suffer bone weaknesses in other parts. I had kyphoplasty to shore up 6 vertebrae that were compressed. I have a lot of stiffness that can be mistaken for pain.

For several months, I could not even hold the bass in my lap and play, I was that messed up.

I am walking lots, lifting weights using proper form, and mostly keeping aerobic. I have light-headedness from the cancer meds, all challenges as you can see. Through all this, my band of 7 years led me on for a year about my coming back, only to toss me out when I was ready to come back.

I worry about relapsing. It's a constant battle. Good luck with your healing.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:53 PM
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Been there, done that, got the titanium trophy. 3 times. I'm fused from C4 - T1. Pretty much the same symptoms as you, except on my left side and sometimes pain, tingling and numbness all the way down to my foot. I couldn't hold my strings down. I had been able to barre 4 strings using my 1st and 4th fingers with no problem but then couldn't.

The good news is after each op the pain, tingling and numbness went away immediately. It did take a while to get strength back but I eventually started playing again after each episode. I was told that nerve damage heals at about an inch per month. So, how long is your arm?

I didn't do any therapy as the docs didn't recommend it (???). I was also limited in how much I could lift for a while. About 8 - 10 lbs I think. I'm surprised they let you go right back to hoisting a bass, even sitting down, so quickly.

Good luck with your recovery. Since you're making progress, I'd bet you'll make a full recovery.

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Old 12-21-2010, 05:54 PM
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Condolences, and good luck; best bet is to follow the advice of the doctors and physical therapists. My husband has several herniated disks in his lower back, due to things like jumping out of Air Force trucks with a heavy back pack and machine gun in hand, landing on snow and ice and ending up on his rump. (I hear from friends who have foks in the family who jumped out of airplanes for a living that this is even more common in paratrooper types.) He's at the point where sometimes he can't even feel his feet; and at other times like his feet are either on fire, or being stuck all over by lots of pins (the ad a year or so back with the feet with fire ants crawling all over them had resonance with him - unfortunately, the medication that ad was for wouldn't be of any use in his case.) He's probably looking at back surgery sometime next year; at least they can now do that using lasers, and it isn't quite as dangerous as it used to be. However, one thing I remember the doctors telling him (and which he after that proceeded to ignore) was being told that smoking cigarettes can make a herniated disk worse. So, if you smoke, I'd advise that you cut back, or try to stop smoking, if you can. (I know my husband has tried numerous times, but part of him really ENJOYS smoking, so he hasn't been successful at quiting yet...)
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:11 AM
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ahc, have you noticed any limitations in your ability to move your neck? I was worried about having two disks fused, but I haven't really noticed much reduction in my range.

I would have been devistated if my band had turned on me, especially after the loyalty to them I have shown over the last couple of years. They were really good to me the few weeks I was really limited. They carried my bass (and beer) in and out of practice for me, and didn't complain about my crappy bass playing, although they really could have, it was that bad at first. Now I am working even harder to get back up to speed.
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