Hey I got the money,oh...you sold it.

Zombbg4 · #1 02-17-2009, 12:06 AM

Either a trade or a straight up sale, I get a deal set up with the seller/trader and wait for their decision on the trade or raise funds for the purchase when they person has sold it,went with another trade, or no longer wants to buy/trade it though last time you spoke they were very interested and were getting money ready and don't bother to let you know.

This drives me nuts! Not a cool move at all. If I am going another way on a deal I let the person know, or better yet, ask them if they are OK with it.

This time it was for an amp I've been gassing for for a looooonnng time and put my other amp on the 'bay to pay for it. Now I either wasted money and time listing the thing, or I sit around with no amp for home untill something, most likely not what I wanted, pops up in my price range...

What do you guys think about this? (If you got through the ranting) I think it's a pretty dick thing to do.

Rant over.

T-Bird · #2 02-17-2009, 01:18 AM

Hi.

Sorry to say this, but what did You expect?

Sounds like You didn't give the seller a deposit that would'we made you the "frirst in line" to finish the deal.

Sounds also like You don't have too much experience with selling stuff and dealing with the endless promises and unbelievable stories the buyers make up in order to weasel out from the deal.

I don't sell/trade that much, but the deals and buyers that I have dealt with, would fill a small book. First come (called), first served. Within reason of course. If I keep something on hold for someone they pay a deposit, no exeptions.

When buying stuff, the worst for me is the sudden urge to run an auction by the seller. The conversation is usually a short one, especially if I'm already on the way, when the phone rings and the seller informs that John Doe just made him a better offer and the deal between us is off unless I'm willing to offer more. That's called milking and usually ends in hurting

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If You're genuinely interested about the product, you give a deposit or a collateral to ensure that there's a chance that YOU will be the "lucky one"

. Like I said earlier, I always require one if I'm selling/holding, and if I'm buying I offer it to the seller without the need for him to ask for it.

Regards
Sam

Trevorus · #3 02-17-2009, 02:11 AM

I don't work a deal until I have money in hand. Saves a lot of heartache later. There are a few people I would let get gear on credit, and they are a VERY few.

BillMason · #4 02-17-2009, 03:19 AM

First at my door with cash in hand... I'm selling something because I *don't* want to hold it.

Febs · #5 02-17-2009, 04:03 AM

Unless and until you tell a seller, "I'll take it, payment is on its way," or the seller tells you, "I accept your offer, send payment to ...," then that seller is free to do whatever he or she wants to do with the item. You have no right to expect a seller to hold an item for you while you raise the funds to pay for it.

oldrocker · #6 02-17-2009, 06:14 AM

Typically I would not hold anything while a perspective buyer tries to raise funds by selling something on ebay.

stflbn · #7 02-17-2009, 06:27 AM

If I'm serious about a deal I either HAVE the money or the Trade ready and willing.

If I'm the seller I do not consider a trade offer serious until the item to be traded shows up at my door, or I get a deposit to hold it. I've even had sales and trades go bad even after a deposit was made.

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Steve · #8 02-17-2009, 07:43 AM

Yep. All That^

You are either prepared to do business or you are not prepared to do business.

Baryonyx · #9 02-17-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Bird

When buying stuff, the worst for me is the sudden urge to run an auction by the seller. The conversation is usually a short one, especially if I'm already on the way, when the phone rings and the seller informs that John Doe just made him a better offer and the deal between us is off unless I'm willing to offer more. That's called milking and usually ends in hurting

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I remember seeing this happen on a British forum.

One guy was buying a Warwick Thumb from a private seller for his son, costing him £600. He drove to pick the bass up as arranged (which I think was like a four hour drive each way) and found that the seller had had an offer of £750 for the bass (apparently). He wasn't willing to honour the old deal, so the guy didn't get the Thumb, although the sellers "high bidder" fell through and he ended up having to sell the bass to someone else for like £500!

Karma!

Zombbg4 · #10 02-17-2009, 09:47 AM

It's not that the person sold/traded that ticks me off, it's the lack of communication and letting me know that they did. It's like being stood up on a date...uh, not that has happebed to me...never.

**peabody** · #11 02-17-2009, 11:45 AM

I guess to me, if the seller promised he would hold it for you, then it would make a difference.

I have made deals where I've agreed to hold an item for a day or two to see if the buyer could put the cash together. If they can't come up with it in the time we discussed, then I let them know I'm moving on (and the key is, I let them know). I'll usually be a little more patient when someone says they have a deal in the works to raise the cash, as opposed to someone who says they haven't listed their item yet, but it should sell quickly....and everyone who has ever sold anything knows how that works.

Usually I give the prospective buyer the first right of refusal and let them know that I will hold it for them for a short period of time, and if another offer comes in, I will let them know and they can decide if they want it or not...and if they want it, they need to make the purchase immediately.

Like most things, it's a matter of courtesy.

stflbn · #12 02-17-2009, 11:55 AM

Good Faith is something that is easily taken advantage of if allowed.

I almost always make it apparent to people I'm buying from and selling to that I tend to be paranoid and suspicious about sales and expect people to stay in contact with me. If selling there WILL be a deposit to hold if I don't know you. That deposit will non-refundable and will be based on how long you think you need to 'come up' with the money needed have a time limit put on it and if you disappear and I don't hear from you for weeks, months you can expect the item likely sold when you return. If trading, the seller WILL send his trade item before I send the item they want. If buying I DO expect the seller to be responsive, polite, and provide other sources of proof that they exist other than their presence on Talkbass, and a supposed Ebay account does not count.

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