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02-10-2011, 12:36 AM
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Did you catch Christina Aguilera's performance of the national anthem at the Super Bowl last Sunday? Putting aside the fact that she muffed the lyrics, how do you feel about her actual singing style? You know: that extremely overwrought, melodramatic, way over the top overuse/abuse of melisma - first popularized by the likes of Whitney Houston (among others) during the mid-to-late 80s?
The legendary record producer, the late Jerry Wexler, had coined a term for it: He called it "oversouling", i.e. the flagrant, extreme overuse of melisma as "...either a substitute for real fire and passion, or a cover-up for not knowing the melody."
There was a great commentary on it at The Huffington Post the other day. Check it out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-e..._b_819979.html
Are you as fed up with "oversouling" as I am? Feel that you could easily live the rest of your life without ever hearing another peep out of Jennifer Hudson? Or Beyonce Knowles? Or Mariah Carey? Or Christina Aguilera?
I'm jus' sayin'...
MM
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02-10-2011, 12:46 AM
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02-10-2011, 12:55 AM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | Yeah, very few singers can pull it off well. Whitney may have been the only one. It's really horrible when the American Idol contestants try it.
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02-10-2011, 12:57 AM
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02-10-2011, 12:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Missouri | | | Yeah, she had a little too much "think" in her "feel". So much that she forgot the words. | 
02-10-2011, 01:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida | | | I don't mind it when it's tastefully done, but most don't use it tastefully anymore. They use it in everything they sing and it's just ridiculous.
It's become so common place with younger generations that the girls in my college choir would try and do it in every piece of music the professor gave us. Fortunately, the professor nipped that in the bud very fast.
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02-10-2011, 01:01 AM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | Woo oh oh yeah eh yeah hehe ohhhhhhhh. Add 2 tone wide vibrato and you show you're soulful baby.
Awful. I hate that. | 
02-10-2011, 01:05 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Richmond, Va | | | Yeah I hate all the vocal gymnastics these women feel they need to do to prove they can sing. They sing every single note they're capable of in 10 seconds, and it's downright unlistenable. I think this falls into the same category as the overwrought, not right for the song but look at me anyway masturbatory guitar solo
Theres something to be said for subtlety. | 
02-10-2011, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cassanova I don't mind it when it's tastefully done, but most don't use it tastefully anymore. | Whoa! For a moment there, I thought you were referring to "The Hideous Cult of Slapping"...
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02-10-2011, 01:24 AM
| | Fueled by chocolate | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada | | I've never been impressed by the ability to fit several notes into one syllable. That, to me, is not at all what singing is about. I'm glad that a few people have taken issue with this aspect of Aguilera's performance. I honestly couldn't care less if she messed up a few of the words (but then again, I'm Canadian  ); what really bothered me was the way she stomped on the melody of the song and made the entire moment about her. But the masses are easily impressed, it seems, by the most clichéd musical malapropisms. It's like the sloppy slap syndrome - even the worst delivery, if done in a sufficiently flashy manner, will produce shrieks of approval by those in the audience who simply don't know any better. | 
02-10-2011, 01:26 AM
|  | My basses pay the bills that pay for more basses Unofficially Endorsing Genz Benz, Fender, Avatar TB-153 Cabs, Musicman | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale Az | | | Imo, Christina Aguilera has earned the right to sing however, and whatever she wants. | 
02-10-2011, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by faulknersj Imo, Christina Aguilera has earned the right to sing however, and whatever she wants. | What do "rights" have to do with tastefulness/tastelessness?  | 
02-10-2011, 01:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Wisconsin | | | I just don't think anyone should sing the national anthem like that. There are plenty of songs she can sing anyway she likes. Nobody has earned the right to disrespect, or butcher that song.
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02-10-2011, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by faulknersj Imo, Christina Aguilera has earned the right to sing however, and whatever she wants. | Not within earshot of me, she hasn't. | 
02-10-2011, 01:47 AM
|  | My basses pay the bills that pay for more basses Unofficially Endorsing Genz Benz, Fender, Avatar TB-153 Cabs, Musicman | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale Az | | I am sure Christina is incredibly concerned with your internet critiques fellas. Shouldn't we be practicing right now instead of caring about this?  | 
02-10-2011, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by faulknersj I am sure Christina is incredibly concerned with your internet critiques fellas. Shouldn't we be practicing right now instead of caring about this?  | Well... she should be  . If she gets to hold me hostage and subject me to her nonsense during my football game, then I at least get to vent anonymously on the internet. | 
02-10-2011, 01:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Albuquerque | | | Aside from the botched lyrics, I thought it was the perfect rendition for the event. A display of excess to kick off another display of excess. And I'm all for excess, so don't take that the wrong way.
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02-10-2011, 01:52 AM
|  | My basses pay the bills that pay for more basses Unofficially Endorsing Genz Benz, Fender, Avatar TB-153 Cabs, Musicman | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale Az | | | bass12, what I meant is; when was the last time that your talents and accomplishments warranted an invitation to perform at the most viewed television event of all time? | 
02-10-2011, 02:49 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Augusta, GA | | | The clip of the men and women in fatigues, just the look on there faces said it all. You could tell they were thinking WHAT IN THE H*LL is she doing?!?!?!?!? Glad I missed the first few minutes.
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