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08-08-2006, 10:24 AM
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My Yamaha bb 3000 MA has a hip shot d tuner. but I have never used on so I am not familar with them . I know how to work it. But what how far down does it drop your e string? Will it go down to a B so i can use my bass like it were kind of a 5 string?
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08-08-2006, 10:25 AM
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08-08-2006, 11:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Baltimore | | | String will be unplayable at that tuning. An E string does not have enough mass to not turn too a sloppy mess when tuned that low.
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08-08-2006, 02:08 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: outta this world | | | ^^^ precisely, you aren't gonna get anything lower than C with a standard gauge E string even C is pushing it to the point of too floppy | 
08-08-2006, 02:20 PM
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08-08-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mwm70 String will be unplayable at that tuning. An E string does not have enough mass to not turn too a sloppy mess when tuned that low. |
Hmm, Matt Garrison doesn't seem to run into this issue when he flips his down to B from E.
I only went as low as C when I used my D-Tuner, and that was only for one gig. And it was fine at C. Fingering was weird, but sounded OK.
Other than that, I keep it at D 99.999% of the time.
I can almost play as well in the dropped D than I can in normal E.
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08-08-2006, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mwm70 String will be unplayable at that tuning. An E string does not have enough mass to not turn too a sloppy mess when tuned that low. | I've seen Michael Manring pull it off. Yes, it will still be floppy, but it's useable. | 
08-08-2006, 02:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jamaica, Queens, NY. By JFK. | | | It can go down to B easily, you just have to fine tune it.
A .105 E string (which to my knowledge is the standard) can handle being tuned to low B, atleast in my experiences.
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08-08-2006, 03:01 PM
|  | TalkBass: Usurping My Practice Time Since 2002 Endorsing Artist: Lyt Pedalboards Beta tester: Source Audio Moderator | | Join Date: May 2002 Location: Connecticut | | | If there's enough room for the arm to move (and there usually is), you can go down to a B. And yes, if your bass is capable of producing a good solid low E, it can handle a drop to B. It'll be a bit rattly, but most of that won't get amplified. | 
08-08-2006, 04:10 PM
|  | Funkify your Life | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Bucket, RI. | | | How low you can tune it really depends on the bass, your strings and how your bass is set up. It is possible to tune it down to a low B. I have a Hipshot on two different basses and got by very well simply de-tuning it to D. B is a little to floppy for my taste.
Make sure you read the "how to" Tim99 listed. When you are tuning it you will have to tune the E string about half a note flat because when you hit the lever to de-tune and bring it back up your E string will go sharp. This only happens the first time you tune up. After that you can use the de-tuner as many times as you wish providing your E string stays in tune.
It's kind of a pain at first but you will get use to it. Basically tune your E string first. (about a half note flat) Then bring down the lever to detune, tune the low note you want with the small tuning knob, then bring the lever back up and recheck your E string. Using an electronic tuner is required. After you do it a couple of times you will know exactly how flat you will have to tune the E string. | 
08-08-2006, 07:09 PM
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