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Old 12-12-2010, 12:50 PM
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History Question: Where were Fred Wilfer and Josef/Walter Hofner during WWII?

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Fighting for the Nazi army? Employing concentration camp labor? I'd be very curious to know the details.

Both the Wilfers (Warwick) and the Hofners (er, Hofner) moved their bases of operation from factories on the fringe of German territory (which they knew would be divided amongst the country's neighbors) into Bravaria after D-Day. There doesn't seem to be much out there about what the two families were doing during the war period though, and I suspect with good reason.

If anyone has information on this, it'd really give me some peace of mind about investing heavily in these companies! Yeah, "leave the past in the past" and all that, but I still won't buy IBMs...
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:57 PM
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...Or drive a Ford or Volkswagen, or eat Swiss cheese, or watch Terminator...

I'm kind of kidding, because I make (and talk about) similar "protest buying" decisions. But in the case of Germany, their economy was nearly destroyed after WWII, and it was re-built with money from the US, which of course came from taxes on US citizens and companies. So it's awfully hard to point fingers at these guys today.
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Old 12-12-2010, 01:25 PM
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They very well may have been fighting, or otherwise involved with, the German armed forces during the war, but I'd be surprised if they employed forced labor at all, other than perhaps for the most menial of labor, since luthiers in concentration camps were probably as rare as, well, whatever! I worked for a German medical instrument company, based in a small town near the Swiss border, and they just shut down for a few years during the war. Labor and nonessential materials were in very short supply.
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Here's some others.

Mitsubishi built the Zero fighter plane as well as other planes that bombed Pearl Harbor.

Toshiba sold CNC machines to the Soviet Union that were used to produce very quiet submarine propellers. Nuclear missile submarine propellers. Enemy nuclear missile submarine propellers.

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Old 12-12-2010, 06:45 PM
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Not to mention that any of the Warwick/Hofner people that were alive during WWII probably aren't now...
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Here's some others.

Mitsubishi built the Zero fighter plane as well as other planes that bombed Pearl Harbor.

Toshiba sold CNC machines to the Soviet Union that were used to produce very quiet submarine propellers. Nuclear missile submarine propellers. Enemy nuclear missile submarine propellers.

Just sayin'...
Yeah there are a bunch of 'em. With the exception of IBM (arguably the most unconscionable of the bunch, and they make a crap product anyway), I generally won't hesitate to give business to most of those companies. As mentioned before, time has passed and many of them were victims of circumstance anyway. Still, I do like to know.
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Toshiba sold CNC machines to the Soviet Union that were used to produce very quiet submarine propellers. Nuclear missile submarine propellers. Enemy nuclear missile submarine propellers.
I was in the Army when that happened. The PX pulled everything Toshiba from the shelves.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:31 PM
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Why do you not just buy MIA and be done with it
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What do you mean with Nazi army? There was no souch thing. It was an german army. Did US send the Republican army to Irak? Germany was in war and of course a lot of german men fought for their fatherland.
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What do you mean with Nazi army? There was no souch thing. It was an german army. Did US send the Republican army to Irak? Germany was in war and of course a lot of german men fought for their fatherland.
I think he's more concerned with the usage of concentration camp labor.
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