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05-07-2011, 04:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oslo, Norway | | | How do you deal with very bad drummers?
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I have a gig tonight with a terrible drummer. Everything just sounds really bad. At the rehearsal last night i got depressed..because as a result of the drumming my playing also sucked big time. Not looking forward to the gig at all. I try to act positive and professional, but its really hard. How do you cope with situations like that?
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05-07-2011, 04:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan | | | I quit my band this week because the bad drummer, I got tired of not being able to groove even with a straight 8th's song, this guy would never, never listen to the songs then in rehearsals will play whatever rythm pattener came to his mind, even then he wont keep the same pattener for more than two bars, his reasons: '' Most of the songs are very flat , not variation at all, we can't play them like that, people will get boring, with my arrangements songs sound more interesting now.'' |
05-07-2011, 06:52 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Packernation | | | Life is to short to play with lousy drummers. |
05-07-2011, 06:54 AM
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05-07-2011, 07:00 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Princeton New Jersey | | | Refuse to pay him for the pizza.
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05-07-2011, 07:08 AM
| | | | I have played with many bad drummers and it definately effects your playing. Without good timing, it's hard to make anything sound good. The only thing that has worked for me is to get rid of him or to go find yourself another drummer who can play. |
05-07-2011, 07:24 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KC, MO | | Do the gig, get paid, take him out back after everything is packed and loaded, and off the POS 
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05-07-2011, 07:25 AM
| | | | I know exactly what your going though. We have 3 main drummers on our worship band at church. 2 of which are horrible, they don't hit hard enough, (especially on accents) and they can never play the song like we rehersed it.
They got offended when people suggested they take lessons.
I know some might say "well it's just a church band", but i've heard some amazing worship bands over the years, both groovin' gospel and rockin' contemporary.
I ended up quiting, it was making my playing suffer.
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05-07-2011, 07:29 AM
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05-07-2011, 07:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oslo, Norway | | | A good drummer can make a terrible band sound ok...but a bad drummer. No chance. Everything and everyone will sound bad.
I tend to play more busy when the groove doesnt work..But i should play as little as possible. Ten notes that sounds bad is not better than one. Well its all history tomorrow.
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05-07-2011, 07:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lighthouse Point, FL | | | Be nice to him for the gig, then never hire him again. |
05-07-2011, 07:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maplewood Mn | | | just do your thing, play from your heart and get through the gig, most people in the audience won't no the difference |
05-07-2011, 07:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: WMass, USA | | | With direct, constructive feedback. Any musician worth his/her salt, regardless of skill level, should be comfortable both giving and seeking criticism (as well as compliments).
"You suck, get better," does not count as constructive feedback; "I think your timing is rushed on this part, so let's play it again, and can you pull back the energy around 20% on the choruses?" is specific and constructive.
If the drummer isn't willing to at least engage with the feedback and suggestions (whether he/she agrees with it), then it may not be worth trying to force a continued musical relationship. As another poster noted, life is too short, and playing music is too much fun to waste a lot of time with a poor drummer. |
05-07-2011, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by odin70  I have a gig tonight with a terrible drummer. Everything just sounds really bad. At the rehearsal last night i got depressed..because as a result of the drumming my playing also sucked big time. Not looking forward to the gig at all. I try to act positive and professional, but its really hard. How do you cope with situations like that? | I don't deal with very bad drummers.
Not more than once.
If the gig pays well, do it and then say byebye, if it doesn't, "scold your hand too badly to do the gig whilst making a cup of tea"!
That's one approach anyways.
Good luck.
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05-07-2011, 07:56 AM
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05-07-2011, 08:01 AM
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05-07-2011, 08:05 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO | | | The problem with doing the gig and then firing the drummer is that there is potential to damage your bands reputation. If you sound like crap because of your bad drummer you may not get asked to play that venue again. Also those who saw you could spread the word about how you sounded. IMO it would be better to cancel the gig until you get a good drummer, rather than risk getting a bad rep over one member.
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05-07-2011, 08:08 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio | | | Bad drummer=bad band. If you and the drummer can't lock in, the band will never groove. Kick him out or kick yourself out.
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05-07-2011, 08:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oakland, CA | | | On a similar note
How do you deal with a guitarist who doesn't fit within the style or direction of the group? I have a close friend and we play in a group together. When the man solos he's golden but he doesn't bring much else to the table. He has a metal/rock approach to the guitar but a lot of the time it doesn't fit. What words do I say to help him see this?
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05-07-2011, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LAG Life is to short to play with lousy drummers. | yes. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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