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11-14-2012, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kellyrojo | Better than Jaco's take but still pretty blegh.
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11-14-2012, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese I like the Chicken because it is a Jaco related tune that a crappy bassist like me can play!  | I can't say better
OTOH, it's the crap tune every time you are asked when there's jazz guys in a room "hey an electric bass player!! shall we play the chicken ???" ...... ORLY ???? YOU ASKED ME "THE CHICKEN" ??
that's why I'm fed up with that tune, it's now a ... pretext to crap jams....  |
11-14-2012, 07:49 PM
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11-14-2012, 08:01 PM
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11-14-2012, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rimbaud I can't say better
OTOH, it's the crap tune every time you are asked when there's jazz guys in a room "hey an electric bass player!! shall we play the chicken ???" ...... ORLY ???? YOU ASKED ME "THE CHICKEN" ??
that's why I'm fed up with that tune, it's now a ... pretext to crap jams.... | If you can't play jazz and want to fake it, The Chicken, All Blues, So What?, and Song for My Father, will allow you to look cool. 
Chameleon is harder, but maybe you can get away with just playing the vamp! 
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11-14-2012, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese
If you can't play jazz and want to fake it, The Chicken, All Blues, So What?, and Song for My Father, will allow you to look cool.
Chameleon is harder, but maybe you can get away with just playing the vamp! | LOL! So true!
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11-14-2012, 11:15 PM
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11-15-2012, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bassybill The Chicken is lot more harmonically sophisticated than some people seem to realise. That's why so many people can't solo effectively over the changes. | Ignorance is bliss! Seriously, the bassline is easy and that was what I was referring to.
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11-15-2012, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by caligula | This is actually fantastic! I could definitely see someone rocking this version with an organ trio or something. So I guess that's two versions of The Chicken that I like.
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11-15-2012, 05:39 PM
| | | | OP, not funky ? seriuosly ? just cause he aint slappin the bejeesus out of the thing it aint funky? dude, I just watched a vid and it sounded pretty damn funky to me, jaco could make it greasy and swing at the same time, in my book thats FUNKY. Regardless if you've heard the tune one too many times or not you cant deny that the man had an incredible internal meter. |
11-15-2012, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bluesblaster OP, not funky ? seriuosly ? just cause he aint slappin the bejeesus out of the thing it aint funky? dude, I just watched a vid and it sounded pretty damn funky to me, jaco could make it greasy and swing at the same time, in my book thats FUNKY. Regardless if you've heard the tune one too many times or not you cant deny that the man had an incredible internal meter. | I see Kwesi's point. The Chicken can come off like a generic tv soundtrack. Jaco was a genius, but I never saw him as a pure funk player.
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11-15-2012, 06:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: MEXICANADAMERICA | | okay,... i was cool with "The Chicken" until just now. thank you, Kwesi, for bringing me out. i love Jaco and i thought this song was good. there was always something that bugged me, though.
it does sound like a cheesy game-show theme song!!! 
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11-15-2012, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwesi Particularly Jaco's versions of the song. Frankly, I think it's one of the cheesiest pieces of music I've ever heard, not counting joke songs and such. It's like it's trying to hard to be funky and falls on it's face. My buddy, on the other hand, LOVES it. Ever since we played it back in high school he just can't get enough.
Just curious to see what other folks think. | Sir, I respectfully disagree with your position. On the live version from Jaco's "Invitation" record, he sits in a deep funky groove while simultaneously soaring above it. This is the very core of his musical genius. Also, Othello Molineaux's solo is just shocking...sick!
I agree the tune is like the "Mustang Sally" or "Brown-Eyed Girl" of jazz/R&B, indeed it's way played-out. But it's good to know it in case cats call it out at a jam or open mic. That's happened to me a bit. |
11-15-2012, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese If you can't play jazz and want to fake it, The Chicken, All Blues, So What?, and Song for My Father, will allow you to look cool.
Chameleon is harder, but maybe you can get away with just playing the vamp! | Plain right !!! my local blues jam sessions always plays Chameleon,cos' you know... it's an easy I-IV but... you'll never hear the theme played correctly, yeah... only vamps, that's why I'm fed with that tune too.
Once I started with Freddie Freeloader... yep in a basic blues jam, I thought it wasn't so hard and breaking down with those "chicken-chameleon" things ya know....only one musician managed to solo, the others just searching after chords.... and badly faking  |
11-15-2012, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rimbaud
Plain right !!! my local blues jam sessions always plays Chameleon,cos' you know... it's an easy I-IV but... you'll never hear the theme played correctly, yeah... only vamps, that's why I'm fed with that tune too.
Once I started with Freddie Freeloader... yep in a basic blues jam, I thought it wasn't so hard and breaking down with those "chicken-chameleon" things ya know....only one musician managed to solo, the others just searching after chords.... and badly faking | I wonder, does Red Clay also fall into the "played all the damn time" category for you guys or is that just me? That said, it's in the category of songs I just can't get tired of along with Freddie Freeloader, All Blues and Chameleon. Just about sick of Mr. Magic but its not quite The Chicken for me (though the B section upsets me with it's cheesiness).
And to clarify my ideas about The Chicken a little more. Is it funky? Ok, fine, a little but I would NEVER in a million years use it as an example to showcase what "funky" means. I would sooner use a Dave Matthews or John Mayer tune.
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11-15-2012, 09:20 PM
| | | | I really like other bassists' takes of it, but I think the song itself defines pretentious jazz. It's not funky, and it's not groovy. Merely an emperor's new clothes type of thing among those looking to appear knowledgeable. I have no qualms at all with Jaco or anything else he's done. |
11-15-2012, 09:25 PM
| | | | Give me Paul Jackson or one those guys that played on 70's-80's era porn soundtracks, maybe a little George Porter, Chuck Rainey to name a few
Mathews/ Mayer No Sir, I dont like it
"The Chicken" .... I've heard worse
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