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02-15-2009, 10:03 PM
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02-15-2009, 10:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Framingham, Massachusetts | | | since when do guitards care what the bass player is doing?
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02-15-2009, 10:08 PM
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Your point?
Are you a musician or an a*!&%#e?
Why would you do that?
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02-15-2009, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by billoetjen Ummm -
Your point?
Are you a musician or an a*!&%#e?
Why would you do that? | Its okay, hes from Canada | 
02-15-2009, 10:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Annapolis, Maryland | | | You must be playing with some really, really lame guitar players. V-IV-I isn't exactly rocket science! | 
02-15-2009, 10:14 PM
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02-15-2009, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Number27 since when do guitards care what the bass player is doing? | Bingo.
In an old band I tried to make a point about my guitar player's volume by turning my bass volume all the way off and pretending to play. After two songs the drummer (who initially thought it was funny) said he couldn't take it anymore and that I had to stop.
The guitarists response?
"He has to stop what?"  | 
02-15-2009, 10:24 PM
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reverse V-IV-I intro starting on E
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What if you just said "on the five"?
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02-15-2009, 11:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by billoetjen Ummm -
Your point?
Are you a musician or an a*!&%#e?
Why would you do that? | Wow...... Calling me an a*!&%#e aside....
Ummm - My point?.... Simple.... Playing a 6 string bass without fret markers when you (the bassist) is calling out all of the songs and keys and leading many different guitarists at many different skill levels at an open jam is not a good idea.
The rest of the OP.... well... get a sense of humour.  Kinda a joke, not an attempt to embarass guitarists.
P.S. I realized this after a couple of songs and switched to a 4 string bass with dots. The guitarists thanked me and life was good.
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02-16-2009, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucky Strike Its okay, hes from Canada | That explains everything. Just as long as you don't send Anne Murray and Bryan Adams on another tour down here.
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02-16-2009, 06:52 AM
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I've sent more than one guitar player into clonic spasms with my GT-7 (with markers, though). In time, however, they got over it. | 
02-16-2009, 07:06 AM
|  | Forever in debt to your priceless advice | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Methuen, MA USA | | | If a guitarist is lost in a song he may look to see where the bass player's fretting hand is to determine the root. Playing mostly five strings, I have had quite a few guitarists confused. Once at a practice where we we running through a song that one of the guitarists had never heard before, I noticed him looking at me and appearing flummoxed. Suddenly he had an "A-ha!" look on his face. He stopped the song and asks me, "That bottom string is a 'B', isn't it?".
So he wasn't completely clueless... | 
02-16-2009, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by KPJ ...running through a song that one of the guitarists had never heard before, I noticed him looking at me and appearing flummoxed. Suddenly he had an "A-ha!" look on his face. He stopped the song and asks me, "That bottom string is a 'B', isn't it?". | That's an unusually perceptive guitard right there! 
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02-16-2009, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Baird6869 ... Play a 6 string bass with no fret markers!  
... but the lack of markers really screws guys up at a jam night. | Try bringing an amp rig with no labels for the knobs if you want to have some real fun...  | 
02-16-2009, 10:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Finland | | | Do you play in blues jams that are held in a kindergarten? If the key is called out and people still need to look at fretboards to figure it out? And they are playing blues!
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02-16-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by KPJ If a guitarist is lost in a song he may look to see where the bass player's fretting hand is to determine the root. Playing mostly five strings, I have had quite a few guitarists confused. Once at a practice where we we running through a song that one of the guitarists had never heard before, I noticed him looking at me and appearing flummoxed. Suddenly he had an "A-ha!" look on his face. He stopped the song and asks me, "That bottom string is a 'B', isn't it?".
So he wasn't completely clueless... | You know - this brings up an important point. The vast majority of unwashed guitards cannot play or even concive in anything other than a Index Finger Barre position. Key of A - your index finger is on the 5th fret, Key of B, 7th fret, etc.
When I play bass in A, more often than not, my middle finger is on the 5th fret; sometimes my pinkie (blame it on upright training). That sort of stuff will really mess a guitard up - if he lowers himslef to try and follow the bass player. | 
02-16-2009, 10:48 AM
| | | | Actually play a 2/5/1 change on the blues and you will send most guitards at a jam scurrying from the stage. | 
02-16-2009, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Passinwind Try bringing an amp rig with no labels for the knobs if you want to have some real fun...  | Good idea...
And next time I am going to tell the guitarists to quickly tune to 435 (about a 1/4 step below std tuning).
Actually used to do this in a previous band to help a singer hit certain notes. Works great if you have a Korg tuner that goes down incrementially by 1's from 440, not so good if you have a TU-2 or similar tuner than only tunes up or down in steps or flats or sharps. Quote:
Originally Posted by ZonGuy Actually play a 2/5/1 change on the blues and you will send most guitards at a jam scurrying from the stage. | That would probably send me scurrying from the stage too!
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02-16-2009, 12:35 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burlington, Vermont vt | | | I can remember many times along the way when I had to fix my eyes on the guitarist's left hand to stay on the changes, regardless of hearing the chords called out. Luckily, they usually see this and turn the fretboard my way... to HELP. I left those sessions a little smarter and feeling like I was going to get it after all. I've also been in sessions where some a*%&#$e would deliberately choose obscure chord forms and inversions to entertain himself with my frustration/confusion. Nice; real nice.
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02-16-2009, 01:45 PM
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