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12-18-2009, 08:21 AM
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Hi Folks,
Here's a hypothetical question for fans of The Beatles (it's Friday )
If you could travel back in time to, say, 1966, and cause the disruption of John and Yoko's relationship (by whatever means was handy) and thereby save The Beatles, would you be justified? 
I've run this by some folks here in Burlington at parties, etc. and it's just fun to sit back and watch people get all up in each other's faces. Hey, it's something to do when I can't practice bass.
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12-18-2009, 08:24 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beijing, PRC | | | Nope. John would have found someone else, if not Yoko. He was ready to go, she was just the vehicle by which he left. | 
12-18-2009, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherwood Nope. John would have found someone else, if not Yoko. He was ready to go, she was just the vehicle by which he left. | +1
he was done. Harrison was burnt to a crisp as well.
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12-18-2009, 09:06 AM
| | | | Maybe they would have gone their separate ways for a few years but have gotten back together periodically to record since they had stopped touring early on. | 
12-18-2009, 09:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beijing, PRC | | | If i could go back and stop someone Beatles-related, it would have been Mark David Chapman, not Yoko. | 
12-18-2009, 09:24 AM
| | | | You'd lose Give Peace a Chance, among others. I think some of John's post-Beatles work was important, too, and Wings had their moments, not to mention George's and Ringo's solo work, from Concert for Bangladesh to the Traveling Wilburys.
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12-18-2009, 09:26 AM
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12-18-2009, 10:01 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | | No freaking way!! Why is the tenous possibility that The Beatles might have stayed together in any way justification sabotaging John's persnal happiness? He truly loved Yoko, and that's worth way more than whether he and Paul would have written some cool songs and recorded them with George and Ringo.
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12-18-2009, 10:55 AM
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12-18-2009, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ugly_bassplayer IMO they would have split up anyway. | +1
The Beatles break-up was inevitable. It would have happened with or without Yoko in the picture, and probably right about the same time.
They had really run the course together, and had lost the desire to even be together, as friends, partners, and musicians. They needed a break, and the fragmented recording sessions, legal and financial wranglings, and lack of live performances support this.
I would have stopped Mark David Chapman. And then before any Beatle passed on, as middle-age Beatles, one more truly collaborative album and tour. If they could have pulled that off, it would have been a thing to behold.
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12-18-2009, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherwood Nope. John would have found someone else, if not Yoko. He was ready to go, she was just the vehicle by which he left. | + 1. Paul was the only one trying everything he could to keep the group together... the other three wanted out. Johns heroin addiction was more of a problem than Yoko was... George hated the lack of respect he was shown as a musician... Ringo was sick of the other threes bickering... and Paul, in his attempts to save the group, became a control freak.
If anything, I would have gone back and convinced them to continue touring... I think if they treated the group more like a job than a creative outlet, they may have stayed together for longer, IMO.
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12-18-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JTE No freaking way!! Why is the tenous possibility that The Beatles might have stayed together in any way justification sabotaging John's persnal happiness? He truly loved Yoko, and that's worth way more than whether he and Paul would have written some cool songs and recorded them with George and Ringo.
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12-18-2009, 12:48 PM
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12-24-2009, 08:12 AM
| | | | Yes. I'd have hooked Yoko up with one of the BeeGees and destroyed that monster before it got off the ground. | 
12-24-2009, 08:47 AM
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12-24-2009, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Moose Yes. I'd have hooked Yoko up with one of the BeeGees and destroyed that monster before it got off the ground. | Hell no, then we wouldn't have their excellent pre-1975 material. Like the Odessa album, recently reissued with both stereo and mono versions plus demos and outtakes... I know, it sounds like a plug, but in reality it's just something I recently acquired and have been listening to a lot and greatly enjooying.
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12-24-2009, 12:02 PM
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12-24-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by duff beer If anything, I would have gone back and prevented Adam Sandler's parents from having sex the day he was conceived. If I have to hear that bloody awful Hanukkah song one more time, someone is going to get hurt. | +10000. 
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12-24-2009, 04:56 PM
|  | Looking for Opportunities to Create Harmony | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada | | | In one of the 'authorized' biographies I read about the beatles it was said that the beatles broke up because Paul turned into a control freak. I believe it. He was playing drums for Ringo in the studio and just trying to take control of so much of what was happening. Apparently he drove the rest of them nuts when he belaboured over Maxwell's Silver Hammer for hours upon hours.
That's not to say I dont like Paul but I really think his personality (at the time) had more to do with the break up than Yoko.
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12-24-2009, 05:09 PM
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