i want to test a theory...

lennyonbass · #1 07-03-2009, 02:03 PM

can anyone name for me a "great" blues bassist , who isn't/wasn't strung out on drugs/alcohol at some time in their career?

5StringBlues · #2 07-03-2009, 02:04 PM

Johnny Gayden?

kinnon64 · #3 07-03-2009, 02:08 PM

Can you explicate as to the signifigance of this experiment?

iplaybassguitar · #4 07-03-2009, 02:53 PM

If anyone failed to name one, the OP was intending on embarking upon a 39 month alcohol and hard drug binge in order to give himself the blues

iplaybassguitar · #5 07-03-2009, 02:54 PM

and would have failed, probably ODed, but definitely become a total failure

lennyonbass · #6 07-03-2009, 03:03 PM

5string-->Johnny Gayden: Ok. Thanks. That's one, possibly.

kinnon-->i can't promise or claim any significance.

iplay-->i am not looking to judge anyone or have anyone judged in this thread...

**Pacman** · #7 07-03-2009, 06:38 PM

Roscoe Beck.

LCW · #8 07-03-2009, 07:18 PM

Drug use to me is weird. Its like at one point your standing there with a needle in your hand and you want to put that in your vein?

As to the the question , i cant think of one .

TrooperFarva · #9 07-03-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LCW

Its like at one point your standing there with a needle in your hand and you want to put that in your vein?

1) Because all drugs can only be administered intravenously?

2) Your description is different from modern medicine, how, exactly?

**Bryan R. Tyler** · #10 07-03-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TrooperFarva

1)
2) Your description is different from modern medicine, how, exactly?

If you don't understand the difference between medical necessity and narcotic recreation, then you've
A. Been to some crappy doctors
B. Been using some crappy drugs

LCW · #11 07-03-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrooperFarva

1) Because all drugs can only be administered intravenously?

2) Your description is different from modern medicine, how, exactly?

Heroine is shot into your vein Via a needle. You inject it into yourself.

Of course there is smoking things like meth and crack or snorting cociane,

TrooperFarva · #12 07-03-2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler

If you don't understand the difference between medical necessity and narcotic recreation, then you've
A. Been to some crappy doctors
B. Been using some crappy drugs

There is a difference between recreational drug use, and medicinal drug use, but not in the over-simplistic comment I was responding to.

TrooperFarva · #13 07-03-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LCW

Heroine is shot into your vein Via a needle. You inject it into yourself.

Of course there is smoking things like meth and crack or snorting cociane,

Heroine? Like a person?

Yes, I understand. All non-medicinal drugs are bad. I hear jesus saves, too.

lennyonbass · #14 07-03-2009, 11:29 PM

Ok, so i have johnny b. gayden, and roscoe beck...thanks!
can anyone think of any more?

majortoby · #15 07-04-2009, 05:51 PM

Nope. Drugs are THE SECRET to rocking. Seriously, I bet all the crack heads I ride the bus with can WAIL. >:P In all honesty, I truly think the significance of drug use in music is a tad overplayed. Honestly, if you give a man money, fame, women, and all else he could want, not much besides drugs remains as far as a "thrill" goes. I'm sure plenty of guys we'll never hear about who would even regard a joint as "hard drug abuse" are great blues players. FWIW, as with any drug, Heroin has many delivery options. It gets used IV so much because other delivery routes have a much lower bio-availability. That said, stay off the drugs. If it didn't rise from the earth in it's present state, it has been crafted into a poison.

lennyonbass · #16 07-04-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by majortoby

Nope. Drugs are THE SECRET to rocking. Seriously, I bet all the crack heads I ride the bus with can WAIL. >:P In all honesty, I truly think the significance of drug use in music is a tad overplayed. Honestly, if you give a man money, fame, women, and all else he could want, not much besides drugs remains as far as a "thrill" goes. I'm sure plenty of guys we'll never hear about who would even regard a joint as "hard drug abuse" are great blues players. FWIW, as with any drug, Heroin has many delivery options. It gets used IV so much because other delivery routes have a much lower bio-availability. That said, stay off the drugs. If it didn't rise from the earth in it's present state, it has been crafted into a poison.

so...your answer is "no, i can't think of one."
i don't mean to shut you down, but i am not interested in the moral implications or physical/musical repercussions of drug use, in the context of this thread. seriously...i'm not looking to be a d**khead.

thanks for the input.

5StringBlues · #17 07-04-2009, 11:53 PM

Lenny,

If your theory is that any question posted on Talkbass involving drugs/alcohol will result in an pro drug/alcohol vs. anti-drug/alcohol argument instead of actually answering the stated question,I think you have your answer.

Totally off topic:What's up in your world? Still playing with Sonny Boy?

L

lennyonbass · #18 07-05-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 5StringBlues

Lenny,

If your theory is that any question posted on Talkbass involving drugs/alcohol will result in an pro drug/alcohol vs. anti-drug/alcohol argument instead of actually answering the stated question,I think you have your answer.

Totally off topic:What's up in your world? Still playing with Sonny Boy?

L

lol...that's great, l! how you been? long time, no see...

on the OT: yep, still with him...great night at shake's last thursday...work, in general, has been lean, but i managed to fill in a few with curtis king, this weekend. good times...OTT, i have been busting my behind trying to finish my breakout blues cd...seriously, no joke...
well...i don't know how 'breakout' it will be, but it does have some great players on it.

makanudo · #19 07-05-2009, 05:23 AM

well i think there is a myth that heroin makes everyone better(musically), someone told mustaine, you wanna be great? do heroin,
he wanted to be great so he died and came back to life, same with phil anselmo

bottomline
DONT DO DRUGS

lennyonbass · #20 07-05-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makanudo

well i think there is a myth that heroin makes everyone better(musically), someone told mustaine, you wanna be great? do heroin,
he wanted to be great so he died and came back to life, same with phil anselmo

bottomline
DONT DO DRUGS

sigh...again...this is NOT a pro-drug or anti-drug thread.
i don't give a poop if you like/dislike/use/don't use/advocate (or not) the use of drugs...
i am just asking the question: can you name a "great" blues bassist, who isn't/wasn't strung out on drugs/alcohol at some time in their career?

please try to stay on topic.
thanks...