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08-06-2011, 03:34 PM
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A while back I made a facebook page to help get recognition to get Ernie Ball inducted into the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame. If any are interested in joining the page please feel free to do so. Also, any special stories that any of you may have, please feel free to share. Anything we can do to get him inducted will help! Induct Ernie Ball into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame | Facebook
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08-06-2011, 03:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan | | | mmhhh , no offense but what he had done other than sell Leo Fender basses? I may be missing something. |
08-06-2011, 04:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida, US | | | Amps, Strings.
He also helped design the stingray with Leo, which is why they're called Music Man basses, not Fender.
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08-06-2011, 04:45 PM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | They're called MusicMan because Fender didn't own the right to his name anymore.
Ernie Ball amps, such as which model? They make good strings, right. How is this HOF worthy? |
08-06-2011, 04:47 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana | | | He's not worthy. Neither are most of the other recipients. |
08-06-2011, 05:50 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | | Ernie Ball had one of the first guitar- only stores, was one of the first to sell light gauge guitar strings, bought Music Man when they were bankrupt, sold D'Addario strings under the EB, name, and had a bass amp line for about five minutes.
As pointless as the rest of Janna Wenner's winners...
John
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08-08-2011, 08:53 AM
|  | put a bird on it | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minnesota | | | I would say that EB would be a shoe-in for the music community's HOF, but until any EB product is cemented into the culture of rock and roll, I don't see a need for him to be in there yet. |
08-08-2011, 10:23 AM
| | | | Hell no. If you inducted him, you'd have to induct a whole load of other people. No. |
08-08-2011, 10:27 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Richmond, Va | | Quote:
Originally Posted by sloasdaylight Amps, Strings.
He also helped design the stingray with Leo, which is why they're called Music Man basses, not Fender. | Nope.
Leo left Fender, and it was bought out by CBS. When his "no compete" stipulation of the buy out was over he founded Music Man with George Fullerton. Ernie Ball simply bought the company later, when Leo and George went on to found G&L. |
08-08-2011, 12:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | | See, the whole Ernie Ball/Music Man thing is highly over-rated. Leo started Music Man with Forrest White and Tom Walker as his 10-year non-compete contract with Fender/CBS was expiring. They designed the StingRay bass and guitar and some very cool amps. The guitars were built FOR Music Man by Leo's other company, CLF Research. After dealing with problems between White and Walker, CLF Research declared that they were going to start production of a new line Leo Fender-designed instruments to be marketed by another company called G&L. That didn't sit well with the Music Man principals and they decided they'd take production back themselves. The company foundered for a few more years before going bankrupt.
Ernie Ball merely bought the company out of bankruptcy. He bought the rights to the names, trademarks, and patents, and probably works in process. He didn't buy the factory as far as I can tell. There are reports that Sterling Ball, Ernie's son, may have had some input on the StingRay bass design, but there was NEVER anything in Music Man's literature about that before EB bought them, and noting even in the trade press when the sale was announced. But there was printed evidence well before Leo left the company that Louis Johnson and Carl Radle had input into the early stages of the StingRay design.
Ernie Ball never did anything with the original MM amps either, other than honor warranties for the first year and supply what parts they had available to dealers and repair shops. Their own series of bass amps (the ones manufactured by the Mark Bass people) didn't show up until decades later.
Ernie did some cool things, but nothing particularly iconic. A lot of the redesigns and evolution of the Music Man instruments are from Sterling's input, not Ernie's. He's not in the same league as Leo Fender, Ted McCarty, or Les Paul.
John
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