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11-06-2010, 08:26 AM
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I feel that the type of rap that is popular isn't a great example of what I think rap is about. IMO a great vocabulary and great rhyming, on top of a good "topic" (rather than stupid ****) is what rap is about.
For all of you that think it is all stupid **** I want yall to listen to both of these songs and really listen to lyrics and what they mean.
The first is Not Afraid by Eminem. This song gives me chills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s&ob=av3e
The second is Mr. Hit That Hoe by Treal Lee. By far one of the stupidest songs I've ever heard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guUbmCjdPFo
This is all IMHO, but I think it needs to be said.
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11-06-2010, 10:47 AM
| | | | You're better off not trying to convince anyone of anything. The narrow-minded people who think that rap is only about sex, drugs, violence and ignorance won't be swayed. Don't waste your time trying to prove anything to them; just enjoy the music. There are enough people who already get it. I appreciate the effort, though.
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11-06-2010, 10:59 AM
|  | Expendable | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana | | | I'm no hater of rap, but it's not my thing really. However, I can totally identify with what you're saying, since I'm constantly defending Metal. People tend to think the same things about it. |
11-06-2010, 11:15 AM
|  | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | | I like that you chose Eminem as an example, who's wrote some of the daftest raps ever, the "stupid ****" as you call it.....
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11-06-2010, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FilterFunk  You're better off not trying to convince anyone of anything. The narrow-minded people who think that rap is only about sex, drugs, violence and ignorance won't be swayed. Don't waste your time trying to prove anything to them; just enjoy the music. There are enough people who already get it. I appreciate the effort, though. | Good point: I'm a big fan of alternative/independent hip hop, and can't stand the stuff on the radio. It's not hip hop, its factory-made get-drunk-in-a-sketchy-club music. But most people have already made up their minds on if they like hip hop or not based on a big glaring examples or music centered on less than healthy themes.
I think Illogic says it best in his song "Favorite things":
"My favorite things include...
Seeing humbleness replace overconfidence,
Hearin MC's that rap about the consequence,
instead of glorifyin a lifestyle that lacks any type of common sense" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNGwvwt1fVY |
11-06-2010, 11:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Eastern Wisconsin | | | I don't care what rap is about any more than I care what Black Sabbath or Mahavishnu Orchestra songs are about. Do you get me? Go read a poem.
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11-06-2010, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkstrike I like that you chose Eminem as an example, who's wrote some of the daftest raps ever, the "stupid ****" as you call it..... | I agree. I'm not a fan of every single eminem song (Number One would be one that I rather dislike), but as a whole I think puts out more 'intelligent' rap than someone like Lil Wayne or DJ Khaled. |
11-06-2010, 12:08 PM
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11-06-2010, 12:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx | | | Thats was pretty good. He needs like a backing track though, imho |
11-06-2010, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommygunn Thats was pretty good. He needs like a backing track though, imho | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-j_l7SkYCc
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11-06-2010, 01:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx | | | Thats a lot better, IMHO. Its like RATM kinda. |
11-06-2010, 01:05 PM
| | | | Eminem was on "60 Minutes" a few weeks ago. In the story they had a few short clips of some of his songs and I must say for being the old guy that I am I rather liked them. I thought the music was pretty interesting.
On the other hand I've heard some rap that was the most depressing stuff I've ever heard. Can't remember the artist but wow, this stuff was about as dry as you could get. No life what so ever to it.
All in all I really don't know rap music very well but there is some good stuff out there, IMHO. |
11-06-2010, 01:16 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | It depends if you're more interested in the wordplay/content or the delivery.
Anyway, for your consideration: Aesop Rock - 9-5ers Anthem Deltron - Things You Can Do
But, really, I think the content thing is bogus. |
11-08-2010, 07:06 PM
|  | My Forte is my forte | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: La Jolla, CA | | | In every genre of music, there are bands that play/sing/perform the most commercial, cheesy, lowest-common-denominator crap.
Have you seen/heard the 'country' charts?
Hip Hop/Rap is no different. |
11-08-2010, 07:08 PM
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Intelligent rap, IMO, is stuff like JayZ, where its not all about "slappin the hoes, makin billz, and hittin the pot".
IMO.
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11-08-2010, 08:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Listowel/KW Ontario | | | I am listening to some Kardinal Official right now, he is quite talented and intelligent. There is lots of it out there, Shad is another guy that is heavy on my listening.
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11-08-2010, 09:20 PM
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11-08-2010, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by J. Crawford IF you think Eminem is an intelligent rapper, dont YouTube "FACK". It may change your mind.
Intelligent rap, IMO, is stuff like JayZ, where its not all about "slappin the hoes, makin billz, and hittin the pot".
IMO. | "Money, Cash, Hoes?"
Public Enemy's Fear of a Black Planet rocks hard.
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11-08-2010, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by J. Crawford IF you think Eminem is an intelligent rapper, dont YouTube "FACK". It may change your mind.
Intelligent rap, IMO, is stuff like JayZ, where its not all about "slappin the hoes, makin billz, and hittin the pot".
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Originally Posted by steamthief "Money, Cash, Hoes?" | 
I was about to post the exact same thing... that post is adorable uninformed. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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