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Old 06-16-2008, 06:43 PM
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Jam problem..... what to do in this sit.?

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I ran into a situation at a jam recently. I just got a set of musicians earplugs (15db cut) and have used them at practice in small room and love it...
Fast forward to jam. Me on stage with 4 people I've *never* seen much less played with before (unusual here!). I warn guitar player someone is going to have to tell me the key because I can't pick it up by ear. Sooooo singer starts and has no clue what key she's singing in so she can't tell me (not to mention she was trying but was not in tune....) Guitar player starts playing along but he's using barre chords and errrrr I don't know how to read those. I give guitar player *lost bass player* look and try to pick out the chords by ear.

Problem was, with the earplugs in, I'll be darned if I could hear the chords! I mean, I could hear them, but I couldn't follow them-make sense? However, I'm not sure if it was the earplugs' fault. I looked behind me and there was someone on the vibraphone....which I was stuffed up against. I love to play vibes...I hate standing in front of them... I watch vibe player and he was hitting pretty much every note on that thing ... full vibrato.

Ok....long story...Two questions here: do the musicians earplugs distort sound enough to not be able to pick out notes when a vibe player is wailing? Or is that just not humanly possible?

And second question....what's the polite thing to do in this situation? I am *not* a seasoned pro, I haven't gotten to the level of playing by ear. I need a hint..... key, chord progression, numeric chord progression, guitar player playing standard chord fingerings, chord chart, .....something. And the people running the jam know this... after two songs of this (which was all the singer knew...she tried ) the main gtr came on stage and then starts playing.... keep in mind I have ear plugs in so when he calls the changes I can't hear him and his facing to where I can't see his guitar. So now I'm way frustrated.....and feeling stupid... finally the drummer was able to tell me the changes (sad I know) and on song 4 and 5 they give me a hint *before* starting the song and it's off to the races and I keep up. But.......is there a polite way to ask to not be put in that situation again? I.e. someone on stage please tell bass player the key before song starts? I know the jam leader and can talk to him next time...just wondering how to say it!

Yes I know it's good for me...but I go to have fun not to look like a complete flaming idiot ...I'd never put a youngish player in a situation like that if it were me. To be fair, no one had a clue what singer was like. And perhaps the earplugs were to blame. Or the overzealous vibe player. But........

believe it or not everyone kept telling me what a good player I was....
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:08 PM
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Two options

1. stop playing, when everyone realises, they'll stop too and you can ask the key.

2. NEVER JAM WITH THEM AGAIN!

I usually go for option 1. But then with some people, they just don't get it. I can't believe they couldn't tell you didn't know the key. That's the worry.
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:30 PM
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They should tell you that previously that is messed up

haha this reminds me of the beginning of Victor Wootens book... haha
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:35 PM
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Reverendrally:

Oh they knew I didn't know the key.....think they were waiting for me to find it.... and I forgot to mention that for a large part of the second song I did stop playing! Maybe I should've taken my bass off .
I don't make it to jams very often due to schedule conflicts... but it's the best place to get contacts so never playing again would suck LOL. Not a large variety of choices for jams here.

Thanks for replying so fast
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:41 PM
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Sometimes you just have to scramble.
Helps me to close my eyes, take a deep breath, relax and listen really hard. Listen for roots and turnarounds.

No, it's no fun being lost in front of people. Yeah, it's a good lesson, but a very hard exercise.

I don't wear earplugs. With or without it's tough, I guess
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