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02-28-2008, 08:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas | | | Jonesin' for a Tapper! (Stick / Warr / Megatar)
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Note: I said "tapper," not "tapir":
Just don't want any misunderstandings.
I have watched several YouTubes of guys playing the Chapman Stick and Warr guitar. I WANT ONE!
But GOOD GRIEF they cost a bundle! You gotta consider that the most expensive instrument I own presently is a $1000 Breedlove Atlas 12-String. I can't imagine paying nearly $3,000 bucks for something I *MIGHT* like, but *MIGHT NOT*!
But the notion of being able to essentially play the piano sitting in my office chair is compelling. And the thing just sounds so gorgeous!
I have searched, and can only find one or two for sale on eBay, at nearly-list price (even though they're used). I've decided I might just have to bite the bullet and order a new one, but then comes the question of which to get.
I am inclined toward the Stick, but the Warr and Megatar have points in their favor.
Anyone done in A/Bing on these things? How about the various kinds of Stick? I'm inclined toward the 12-string Grand, but could be persuaded to save a couple of hundred going in another direction.
Please, input!!!! 
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02-28-2008, 09:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Canada | | They definitely seem like an interesting challenge. I'd like to get an instrument like one of them myself. I'm sure bass players like myself who love King Crimson (Tony Levin, Trey Gunn) have thought about the investment, but at the moment it doesn't make sense for me financially. Also like Alphonso Johnson's Stick lines and Colin from Talkbass' favorite band (Behold... The Arctopus) rocks the Warr nicely. Levin and Johnson show that even simple bass lines can sound amazing on the stick.
I'm in the same boat as you, but a heck on an investment for those with low (or no  ) incomes. I always got my dreams. | 
02-28-2008, 10:54 PM
|  | put a bird on it | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minnesota | | krappy guitars make a touchstyle guitar that is much cheaper--it might be worth a look  | 
02-29-2008, 12:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas | | Quote:
Originally Posted by superbassman2000 krappy guitars make a touchstyle guitar that is much cheaper--it might be worth a look  | Dude, I'm naming my next grandchild after you! You may well have solved the problem! This is as cool as anything I've ever come across. For a "mere" $800, that 12-banger's mine!
I'm going to order one this weekend.
Geez, they oughta pay you a "finder's fee" or somethin'! 
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02-29-2008, 02:23 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Illbay Dude, I'm naming my next grandchild after you! You may well have solved the problem! This is as cool as anything I've ever come across. For a "mere" $800, that 12-banger's mine!
I'm going to order one this weekend.
Geez, they oughta pay you a "finder's fee" or somethin'!  | make sure you are specific in what you want from that guy at krappy guitars... | 
02-29-2008, 06:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas | | Quote:
Originally Posted by santucci218 make sure you are specific in what you want from that guy at krappy guitars... | Have you dealt with them? What info do they require? It does seem remarkable that it appears *all* of their instruments are "one off" custom jobs.
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02-29-2008, 01:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Berkeley, CA | | | Illbay--I'm going to be selling my 2001 10-string PurpleHeart Chapman Stick very soon. I'm the original owner and it's as mint as a 7-year old instrument can be.
It has the Stickup (original) pickup and is tuned in Matched Reciprocal. It has Fret Rails, Flaps nut, truss rod, adjustable bridge and it's the 34" scale version. Hardshell case + a bunch of extras. PM me if you're interested. | 
02-29-2008, 05:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas | | | Behold, The Birth Of Krap! Okay, folks, I already have sprung for the Krappy Guitars Touchstyle. I want a 12-String version as close to a Chapman Grand Stick as is legally feasible.
Kevin at Krappy has already picked out the woods for the neck. Here they are like pretty maids all in a row:
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02-29-2008, 05:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas | | Quote:
Originally Posted by winston Illbay--I'm going to be selling my 2001 10-string PurpleHeart Chapman Stick very soon. | Winston: Well, I think for now my appetite is sated by the birth of Krap, but I would like to know a couple of things.
1) Why are you selling?
2) How much did you play it?
3) Did you find it worthwhile to learn to play, or just not worth the bother?
Thanks.
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02-29-2008, 07:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas | | | Decided I'm gonna call it "The Krapman Schtick."
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02-29-2008, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Illbay Decided I'm gonna call it "The Krapman Schtick." | i am no customer, but from hanging around a few epopel that have em or even a wishbass. they say the more specific you are, the less chance they add stuff in there that they want...and the less disappointed you will be, get me? | 
03-01-2008, 11:12 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Berkeley, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Illbay Winston: Well, I think for now my appetite is sated by the birth of Krap, but I would like to know a couple of things.
1) Why are you selling?
2) How much did you play it?
3) Did you find it worthwhile to learn to play, or just not worth the bother?
Thanks. | 1) Just not playing it much. Got it in 2001. Started playing acoustic upright bass in 2003. That gave me a bunch of new gig opportunities and became my main non-bass guitar instrument.
2) Played it almost everyday for two years. Lives under my bed--since getting the upright I take the Stick out every few months.
3) I found it worthwhile--it really helped my understanding of L/R hand independence/interdependence. The two separate sets of strings/tunings are logical but put you in a different headspace. I felt to really give it the time it needed would have meant quitting other instruments, and I'm not ready to do that. Right now I'd rather work on ideas with the tools I know than mastering a new interface.
Hope this helps--happy tapping! | 
03-01-2008, 11:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | Quote:
Originally Posted by winston 1) Just not playing it much. Got it in 2001. Started playing acoustic upright bass in 2003. That gave me a bunch of new gig opportunities and became my main non-bass guitar instrument.
2) Played it almost everyday for two years. Lives under my bed--since getting the upright I take the Stick out every few months.
3) I found it worthwhile--it really helped my understanding of L/R hand independence/interdependence. The two separate sets of strings/tunings are logical but put you in a different headspace. I felt to really give it the time it needed would have meant quitting other instruments, and I'm not ready to do that. Right now I'd rather work on ideas with the tools I know than mastering a new interface.
Hope this helps--happy tapping! | That was my tale exactly. Mine collected dust when I realized that a double bassist needs to practice daily in order to make a living at it (been a DBist for many years, but there's never a time when you're "good enough"). Also, it occurred to me that I already got around well on piano, which for me is a much more efficient way of getting to a whole bunch of music in short order. | 
03-05-2008, 10:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas | | | Latest Progress Pic - The Krapman Schtick Here's the latest progress from Kevin Siebold at Krappy Guitars. He has come up with a "nice piece of cherry with a swirly grain pattern" for the Krapman Schtick's fingerboard:
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03-05-2008, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by santucci218 i am no customer, but from hanging around a few epopel that have em or even a wishbass. they say the more specific you are, the less chance they add stuff in there that they want...and the less disappointed you will be, get me? | My problem is, I know so little about these things, have never even SEEN one, that I don't even know WHAT to ask for. I am relying on the Y ouTube videos I have seen and heard, which lead me to believe that the thing would be a good instrument to learn on at least.
If I REALLY get into it, I'll order a Chapman Stick. I'm already saving up for a little fund for purchasing something along those lines come Summer's end.
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03-05-2008, 11:08 AM
|  | put a bird on it | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minnesota | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Illbay Dude, I'm naming my next grandchild after you! You may well have solved the problem! This is as cool as anything I've ever come across. For a "mere" $800, that 12-banger's mine!
I'm going to order one this weekend.
Geez, they oughta pay you a "finder's fee" or somethin'!  | heh, glad I could help  | 
03-05-2008, 06:18 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houghton, MI | | | Cool to see one in utero. I'd like to get a Krappy 10 string eventually, once I can scrape together the funds. I think it'll be a good solo instrument, and will open up lots of possibilities for playing live in my hometown.
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03-05-2008, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEmptyCell Cool to see one in utero. I'd like to get a Krappy 10 string eventually, once I can scrape together the funds. I think it'll be a good solo instrument, and will open up lots of possibilities for playing live in my hometown. | Just curious: Why do you think that will make for live playing possibilities? Is it because you basically have about half to two-thirds of a band in your hands?
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03-05-2008, 10:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas | | | Oh, and I meant to ask any interested parties: What do you think about "cherry" for a fretboard?
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03-06-2008, 09:23 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh | | | hey dude, sorry if i just cant find it in the thread muk, but how much are you paying for the tapper? | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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