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07-26-2010, 11:34 AM
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I wish companies would all just give us strap locks. I buy a bass, forget that they don't have strap locks and then have to spend a wasted 20.00 to get the strap locks. I would rather pay the hidden cost, but that is me.
Oh well, just a monday rant.
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07-26-2010, 12:49 PM
|  | Refurbishing Crap Basses Since 2008! | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Coral Springs, FL | | | I agree, but not everyone uses the same strap locks. For instance some like the Dunlops. I think they're hideous. I'm partial to Schallers. On a separate note, when I bought my American Jazz Deluxe, it came with Schaller strap locks.
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07-26-2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bassgod76 I agree, but not everyone uses the same strap locks. For instance some like the Dunlops. I think they're hideous. I'm partial to Schallers. On a separate note, when I bought my American Jazz Deluxe, it came with Schaller strap locks. | Mine did as well. So, I had to take them off and replace them with Dunlops, because I think Schallers are "hideous."
So, I paid the hidden cost of the Schallers, and the $20. I say to Fender, "let me get what I want instead of forcing your strap lock preference on me. " | 
07-26-2010, 12:54 PM
| | | | There's a whole new licensing ball game that manufacturers would have to play in order to sell basses with other companies' strap locks installed. Not many bass manufacturers have their own models, so they'd have to strike a deal with Dunlop or Schaller or Marvel to get their locks. Of course, like bassgod said, people's differences in opinions would be an issue because the companies would likely have an exclusivity clause in the contract with the strap lock makers, so there would only be one strap lock model available for all basses from a particular company.
I suppose it could happen, since it's done with pickups and tuners and the like, but I guess right now bass makers just don't see it worthwhile as a hot selling point. And I agree with Chasarms: I'd rather pick my own strap lock then pay extra up front for a model I don't like, especially since my strap lock of choice (Marvel) is cheaper than Dunlop and Schaller, and works just as well.
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07-26-2010, 02:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York City | | | Or, instead of strap locks, you could buy rubber washers from Home Depot and fit them snugly over your strap. They keep the strap on, and total cost is under a buck.
I stole this pic from another site for those who have never heard of this method:
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07-26-2010, 02:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Anasleim, CA | | | My first bass (Peavey Dyna Bass) came with Schallers when I bought it back in prehistoric times. I bought Schallers for all my subsequent basses. | 
07-26-2010, 03:39 PM
| | | | John127: only problem with that solution is that you can't take the strap off without unscrewing the screw.
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07-26-2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cohacq John127: only problem with that solution is that you can't take the strap off without unscrewing the screw. | The rubber washers can actually be folded off over the strap button.
I only ever take my strap off of one bass, and it's because it doesn't fit in the case with the strap on. Then again, I have an identical strap for every bass, so I'm fairly fortunate.
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Originally Posted by McThumpenstein I don't think the wife would buy the "I need to take off this knob and put a whole new bass under it" story. | | 
07-26-2010, 03:56 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | i use a wireless taped onto my strap so not an option for me when i use more than one. but usually i just bring one so i don't know why i care so much
grolsch beer stoppers are also good for strap locks. the beer ain't bad, either 
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07-26-2010, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM i use a wireless taped onto my strap so not an option for me when i use more than one. but usually i just bring one so i don't know why i care so much
grolsch beer stoppers are also good for strap locks. the beer ain't bad, either  | That's the problem - you only use one wireless. Get with the times, man.
My plan is to have one receiver, but an identical transmitter for each bass so that I can just turn it on, flip the killswitch, and play
New song? New tuning? Only 8 seconds left to run across stage and grab a new bass for 32nd note runs @ 240 bpm? No problem.
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Originally Posted by McThumpenstein I don't think the wife would buy the "I need to take off this knob and put a whole new bass under it" story. | | 
07-26-2010, 05:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlottesville, VA | | | Another vote for rubber washers. After years of using Dunlops, then years more of using Schallers, I'm now solidly in the Grolsch-rubber-grommet camp. They're quick on and off, require no mod on vintage bases, and let me keep the strap on the bass in some aftermarket cases where the Schallers protrude too much to fit. | 
07-26-2010, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cohacq John127: only problem with that solution is that you can't take the strap off without unscrewing the screw. | No, no, the strap isn't screwed in. You put the strap on normally then stretch the washer (the hole in the washer has to be smaller than "stem" of the strap button) over the button and it secures the strap. It can be stretched and removed, if necessary, in a second.
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07-26-2010, 06:21 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Norway | | | It's really not such a big deal..
If you're going to the store to buy a bass, you can just pick up a set of straplocks while you're there. Same goes with online purchase. | 
07-26-2010, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bassgod76 For instance some like the Dunlops. I think they're hideous. I'm partial to Schallers. | ha, I find the little nipples from schaller hideous.. | 
07-26-2010, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyl ha, I find the little nipples from schaller hideous.. | I, too, find Schaller unattractive and oversized. dunlop seems so much smaller, and I can leave the strap on my bass when I put it in my bag. With Schallers, they stick out farther and poke my gig bag.
Buying strap locks is a cost of doing business. I do, however, wish they would just sell the bass part or the strap part. | 
07-26-2010, 11:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Rogue River Oregon | | | John 127 nailed it a rubber washer works great
just bought a P bass with strap and strap locks(Duncans?) i don't like the way they`stand off' the strap and mount it on the end,yes it's only a minor beeetch,but hey,an inch is an inch and i need every inch i can get  ,,,
i have rubber washers off of car parts on my J,the strap is not coming off noway!(in fact i intend to swap on some other posts and do the same with the P)
but hey accesories are cool 
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07-26-2010, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FunkMetalBass That's the problem - you only use one wireless. Get with the times, man.  | yeah, right!  i always have two, one for my electric and one for my upright taped onto the tailpiece. that's enough, thank you very much. besides, i only use one bass on most of my gigs anyway.
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07-26-2010, 11:35 PM
|  | He's just this guy, ya know? | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Panama City, FL | | I'm running into a problem where my Modulus has Schallers, but the new five string fretless (Steinberger Synapse) has that strange horn/hook thing going on. I too attach my wireless to my strap and would prefer to use the same strap for both but I am afraid unless there's some way to integrate the Straplock onto the horn (replacement horn or some sort?) I'll have to use my backup transmitter on a second strap. And then it's STILL not as secure as having a real straplock. I guess it'll make bass swaps faster, but I'd prefer to have the backup be a backup and not wear it out  | 
07-27-2010, 08:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin, TX | | | I use Schallers because that's what I happened to buy first. I now have them on all my basses and guitars so that the straps are interchangeable, and the differences between brands are far less than the trouble and expense of changing them all out. They work fine and do what they are supposed to do, so 'tis no biggie. | 
07-27-2010, 08:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vermont | | | Essen, your too funny by stating the super obvious.
I just felt like complaining for a second.
If we all want to go as far as skipping the hidden cost. the bass should just come with a screw hole with no strap holder there at all to save on that hidden cost. Ha ha. We all pay for little addons on anything we buy these days pretty much and I would be willing to pay for that on mine rather than have to take off the piece that is already on there that I had paid for.
Well, I didn't expect this kind of reply from such a pointless topic, but it is interesting to read how people handle their strap situations.
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