K seriously tell me

[Bigger]

K i was having a discussion with someone about instruments and musicians and instrumental importance in todays bands. More of a debate.

What "POPULAR", media promoted, and widely known bands today have bass players that are even noticed, minus the RHCP (and dont use primus because they are not as popular as you people here think. we already disqualified them)

give me one popular band's (and i mean truly media popular, not your dank, german shyster names like, dunk pit or dokenhammer) that the bass is relatively noticeable or even better yet has a SOLO. im not saying which sides were taken here because thats not relavent. We would just like to know.

If someone could name a solo that would be even better. has to be 2000 up. no 1970's/ 80's when the bass was kinda cool era or grunge 90's.

[centralharbor]

AFI had that bass intro on Death of Seasons on their album Sing the Sorrow.

Although you may not like it, I think Blink 182 had some solos in some of their songs.

311, not too sure which song, but they must have had a bass solo within the 2000's.

The bassist from Fallout Boy is pretty famous.

Ozma's bassist, although not a popular band, is awesome.

Anti-Flag has a prominent bassist that has some solos in their songs although I guess they're not THAT popular.

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's way more.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

AntiFlag have a few good ones, but arent that popular, as said.

AFI are pretty damned popular and have some pretty great bass lead riffs, listen to "Sacrafice Theory" on the Art of Drowning, tis awesome.

Rancid are very bass heavy, and have a bass solo on the 2000 album "Rancid" (the second self titled album). Its a song called Axiom. They also have a more known one released in about 94 called "Maxwell Murders". Dare say rancid were only really popular for a brief while when thier newest album came out.

[NickyBass]

Originally Posted by Bigger

...

give me one popular band's that the bass is relatively noticeable....

Well, take the bass away and you will notice.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by NickyBass

Well, take the bass away and you will notice.

Definatly.

Even a band where the bass is just playing the roots, take the bass away, and you have a hollow shell.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

Definatly.

Even a band where the bass is just playing the roots, take the bass away, and you have a hollow shell.

The guitarist could just use an octave pedal!

I was going to say - did anybody see the White Stripes playing live on Jools Holland's 'Later' (UK TV) last Friday?

Jack White was actually playing bass guitar on the last tune of the show, while Jools played e-piano!

[TrooperFarva]

Green Day

Avenged Sevenfold

[Bigger]

k i have sing the sorrow and sails into sunset and have never heard a solo. green day never did a bass solo, just little intros, nothing fancy. GOD FORBID blink never did a solo, those guys jsut stink as musicians all round.

avenge basically hides their bass completely in their most pop album, city of evil (which i love) except one song where there is jsut one QUIK riff of bass alone.

i have never heard ANYTHING form rancid that can be a solo.

and if you take the bass away you may notice, but fill the empty space with a keyboard with bass riffs programmed and no one would ever care. take away a drummer or guitarist and people will walk out in droves. seriously the bass just isnt a cool respected instrument anymore. and dont give me the "well where i live everyone loves my bass", cause you will have to tell me where you live. also fall out boys bassist isnt famous.

secondly can anyone tell me when the singer to all american rejects stopped playign the bass and just sings now? i guess he caught on.

i think i won this debate with my freind, thank you all. (oh and no one say dream theater either, they are not popular. great musicians but not popular).

Originally Posted by NickyBass

Well, take the bass away and you will notice.

you know whats funny, your basically saying "take me away then youll care,,,,, nyahhhhhhhhhhhh".

listen white stripes has no bass. franz ferninand doesnt appear to have a bass player. many bands dont even keep bass players they just pay some studio guy like 30,000 grand a year to tour with them lol.

thats actually true i read some bands who only pay their tour bass players like 45g's to play out with them while they all make 6 figs. i will try and find some of the bands again to put them up.

great quote
"any guitarist can play the bass, but not vise versa", look at the ex bassist to the darkness who was replaced by a guitar tech LOL..... a guitar tech for christs sake.

[Grueber]

Originally Posted by centralharbor

311, not too sure which song, but they must have had a bass solo within the 2000's.

They made a video for the song "You Wouldn't Believe" off of the From Chaos(2001) album. short bass solo at 1:52
http://youtube.com/watch?v=t7Fese_3r7g

[TrooperFarva]

Originally Posted by Bigger

k i have sing the sorrow and sails into sunset and have never heard a solo. green day never did a bass solo, just little intros, nothing fancy. GOD FORBID blink never did a solo, those guys jsut stink as musicians all round.

avenge basically hides their bass completely in their most pop album, city of evil (which i love) except one song where there is jsut one QUIK riff of bass alone.

i have never heard ANYTHING form rancid that can be a solo.

and if you take the bass away you may notice, but fill the empty space with a keyboard with bass riffs programmed and no one would ever care. take away a drummer or guitarist and people will walk out in droves. seriously the bass just isnt a cool respected instrument anymore. and dont give me the "well where i live everyone loves my bass", cause you will have to tell me where you live. also fall out boys bassist isnt famous.

secondly can anyone tell me when the singer to all american rejects stopped playign the bass and just sings now? i guess he caught on.

i think i won this debate with my freind, thank you all. (oh and no one say dream theater either, they are not popular. great musicians but not popular).






you know whats funny, your basically saying "take me away then youll care,,,,, nyahhhhhhhhhhhh".

listen white stripes has no bass. franz ferninand doesnt appear to have a bass player. many bands dont even keep bass players they just pay some studio guy like 30,000 grand a year to tour with them lol.

thats actually true i read some bands who only pay their tour bass players like 45g's to play out with them while they all make 6 figs. i will try and find some of the bands again to put them up.

great quote
"any guitarist can play the bass, but not vise versa", look at the ex bassist to the darkness who was replaced by a guitar tech LOL..... a guitar tech for christs sake.

The sheer ignorance in this post is astonishing.

[NickyBass]

Bigger, you have to realize that most people on this forum don't really care about all the pop music and emo crap that you're talking about. 99% of us didn't get into bass to be stars. There is a whole other world out there aside from MTV, and it's alot bigger than you think. You're free to think what you want, and it's really not worth arguing with you about, but you are doing yourself a disservice if you think like that.

[pointbass]

Originally Posted by Bigger

k i have sing the sorrow and sails into sunset and have never heard a solo. green day never did a bass solo, just little intros, nothing fancy. GOD FORBID blink never did a solo, those guys jsut stink as musicians all round.

avenge basically hides their bass completely in their most pop album, city of evil (which i love) except one song where there is jsut one QUIK riff of bass alone.

i have never heard ANYTHING form rancid that can be a solo.

and if you take the bass away you may notice, but fill the empty space with a keyboard with bass riffs programmed and no one would ever care. take away a drummer or guitarist and people will walk out in droves. seriously the bass just isnt a cool respected instrument anymore. and dont give me the "well where i live everyone loves my bass", cause you will have to tell me where you live. also fall out boys bassist isnt famous.

secondly can anyone tell me when the singer to all american rejects stopped playign the bass and just sings now? i guess he caught on.

i think i won this debate with my freind, thank you all. (oh and no one say dream theater either, they are not popular. great musicians but not popular).






you know whats funny, your basically saying "take me away then youll care,,,,, nyahhhhhhhhhhhh".

listen white stripes has no bass. franz ferninand doesnt appear to have a bass player. many bands dont even keep bass players they just pay some studio guy like 30,000 grand a year to tour with them lol.

thats actually true i read some bands who only pay their tour bass players like 45g's to play out with them while they all make 6 figs. i will try and find some of the bands again to put them up.

great quote
"any guitarist can play the bass, but not vise versa", look at the ex bassist to the darkness who was replaced by a guitar tech LOL..... a guitar tech for christs sake.

Amazing

[Temptation]

Some guys that comes to my mind,
Gene simmons = perfect basslines every single time, does not follow the guitar or play the root note, simple but amazing basslines.
Rutger Gunnarson(abba) = was not an official member of abba and was of course in the background but his basslines was definitely noticebly an amazing, listen to dancing queen.

Originally Posted by Bigger

k i have sing the sorrow and sails into sunset and have never heard a solo. green day never did a bass solo, just little intros, nothing fancy. GOD FORBID blink never did a solo, those guys jsut stink as musicians all round.

avenge basically hides their bass completely in their most pop album, city of evil (which i love) except one song where there is jsut one QUIK riff of bass alone.

i have never heard ANYTHING form rancid that can be a solo.

and if you take the bass away you may notice, but fill the empty space with a keyboard with bass riffs programmed and no one would ever care. take away a drummer or guitarist and people will walk out in droves. seriously the bass just isnt a cool respected instrument anymore. and dont give me the "well where i live everyone loves my bass", cause you will have to tell me where you live. also fall out boys bassist isnt famous.

secondly can anyone tell me when the singer to all american rejects stopped playign the bass and just sings now? i guess he caught on.

i think i won this debate with my freind, thank you all. (oh and no one say dream theater either, they are not popular. great musicians but not popular).






you know whats funny, your basically saying "take me away then youll care,,,,, nyahhhhhhhhhhhh".

listen white stripes has no bass. franz ferninand doesnt appear to have a bass player. many bands dont even keep bass players they just pay some studio guy like 30,000 grand a year to tour with them lol.

thats actually true i read some bands who only pay their tour bass players like 45g's to play out with them while they all make 6 figs. i will try and find some of the bands again to put them up.

great quote
"any guitarist can play the bass, but not vise versa", look at the ex bassist to the darkness who was replaced by a guitar tech LOL..... a guitar tech for christs sake.

The bass is respected, but let's face it, anyone can play bass.. people who play bass keep talk about "yeah but there's a difference between playing bass and playing it well".. yes, obviously. A good player is a creative player, creative bassplayers are as rare as creative composers.

Most bassplayers are not good at all, most musicians can play the bass just aswell as the bassist can.

[NickyBass]

This thread ranks up there with the guy who wanted to buy a bass that worked well with Blue Steels, and is almost as humorous as the whole 'crons' episode.

[ThorBassManiac]

Alien Ant Farm's bassist is pretty talented and plays some good lines. I haven't heard much from them lately, though.

[jenderfazz]

Since when does a lack of solos mean bass is uncool? Sure, not everyone thinks highly of bass. If you don't like it, don't play it. Personally, I like carrying the song, and I wouldn't think of soloing. I'm not a failed guitarist or a shy person, I just like bass to fill the mix and sound good. You say it as if basslines can't be great unless they're the center of attention.

[Temptation]

Originally Posted by jenderfazz

Since when does a lack of solos mean bass is uncool? Sure, not everyone thinks highly of bass. If you don't like it, don't play it. Personally, I like carrying the song, and I wouldn't think of soloing. I'm not a failed guitarist or a shy person, I just like bass to fill the mix and sound good. You say it as if basslines can't be great unless they're the center of attention.

Agree, the bassguitar is not a lead instrument, but i think he's nt talking about that, just the fact that many bassist only play rootnotes or follow the guitar which makes them hard to be noticed.

That's very true in modern music, in the 80's disco music the basslines is an example of basslines that gets noticed.

[Bigger]

Originally Posted by Grueber

They made a video for the song "You Wouldn't Believe" off of the From Chaos(2001) album. short bass solo at 1:52
http://youtube.com/watch?v=t7Fese_3r7g

HA HA HA HA HA HA that was AWFUL, it even sounded bad in general, not just what he was playing. but I'm also partial cause I hate 311.

[Bigger]

Originally Posted by Temptation

Agree, the bassguitar is not a lead instrument, but i think he's nt talking about that, just the fact that many bassist only play rootnotes or follow the guitar which makes them hard to be noticed.

That's very true in modern music, in the 80's disco music the basslines is an example of basslines that gets noticed.

this guy understands it, i asked a question and everyone turned it into a huge thing that got even me all riled up. well this is at least an intelligent fellow.

[TrooperFarva]

Originally Posted by Bigger

this guy understands it, i asked a question and everyone turned it into a huge thing that got even me all riled up. well this is at least an intelligent fellow.

But why is the bass doubling the guitar a bad thing? A lot of the time, it's the bass player that writes the riffs, and the guitar chooses to double it. It's just another form of music. Look at Pantera for example. Rex doubling what Dime does makes the music heavier. He doesn't necessarily get noticed, but the music is better for it.