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09-11-2005, 10:02 AM
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I was wondering has anyone ever seen an up and coming band or act just blow away the established headliner? I know of 3:
1) A then unknown Zapp went before Bootsy on the PFunk tour, and promptly blew him away. They were kicked off the tour the following week, however; he and George Clinton put together a headlining tour for them.
2) Kool and the Gang ripped James Brown  a new one once in '71 or '72. They never played with him again.
3) Prince once ended a tour early, because The Time, in his words, "was consistantly kicking my ass night in and night out." He killed the tour, and put together a better band.
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09-11-2005, 10:44 AM
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09-11-2005, 11:15 AM
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09-11-2005, 11:29 AM
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09-11-2005, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tunaman | Oh yeah! We've done it about 4 times. I'm talking national acts! Rumor has it that we were the reason the American Hi Fi dropped off of the tour.
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09-11-2005, 04:53 PM
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King Crimson opening for the Stones.
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09-11-2005, 05:18 PM
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09-11-2005, 05:28 PM
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09-11-2005, 06:08 PM
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Last year, I took my wife to see Alicia and Beyonce - I hung out with the guys from Alicia's band the night before, so i'm biased...but I thought Alicia's band just killed Beyonce's band, BUT Beyonce's music seems more popish compared to Alicia's - Kern's doing a great job right now with Destiny's Child as well....
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BTW, Chuck', a band in town opened up for us a couple of months ago - one of the guys was wearing an El Pus shirt - I wanted to track him down, but had to go on. 
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09-11-2005, 07:56 PM
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09-11-2005, 08:02 PM
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09-12-2005, 01:43 AM
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U2 sounded horrible had few songs to play and were met with murmurs - Bono - clever guy - brought the support band back for an encore onstage with U2 and woke the crowd up! 
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09-12-2005, 06:22 AM
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09-12-2005, 06:48 AM
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General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | Back in the 80's I saw Saga open for Pat Benetar in New Orleans, and half the crowd walked out because her band was so sloppy...of course, Saga was a pretty tight band...I doubt many would want to have followed them back then.
Also, Allan Holdsworth and Ronnie Montrose toured together in '88, and Holdsworth opened for Montrose...which I thought was hysterically funny...could you imagine having to go on after that? I talked to Jimmy Johnson and one of Allan's road crew after the show (and YES, I left after Allan, because Montrose was awful...), they said the reason they went on first was so Allan could get out of the building before Montrose played... 
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09-12-2005, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck I was wondering has anyone ever seen an up and coming band or act just blow away the established headliner? I know of 3:
1) A then unknown Zapp went before Bootsy on the PFunk tour, and promptly blew him away. They were kicked off the tour the following week, however; he and George Clinton put together a headlining tour for them.
2) Kool and the Gang ripped James Brown a new one once in '71 or '72. They never played with him again.
3) Prince once ended a tour early, because The Time, in his words, "was consistantly kicking my ass night in and night out." He killed the tour, and put together a better band. | I saw Van Halen open for Sabbath on the Never Say Die tour. VH ruled, and I'm a huge Sabbath fan.
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09-12-2005, 08:45 AM
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Hey Woodchuck, a kid I know was wearing a El Pus shirt today!
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09-12-2005, 12:55 PM
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09-12-2005, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gard I talked to Jimmy Johnson and one of Allan's road crew after the show (and YES, I left after Allan, because Montrose was awful...), they said the reason they went on first was so Allan could get out of the building before Montrose played... | LOL 
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09-12-2005, 01:54 PM
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09-12-2005, 01:54 PM
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